Gun Control & RKBA

kioa

(295 posts)

21. The CDC report commissioned by Pres Obama stated:

Mon Jan 5, 2015, 08:42 PM

Jan 2015

“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year … in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008,”

When was it that you 'debunked' the CDC?

"those who support gun control here feel this is a safe haven from the gun nuts and are understandably loathe to be attacked and battered here."

Call those that disagree with you "nuts", complain about being "attacked" in the exact same sentence.
'Self-Awareness'-You may want to look into it.

"Also, the reason why there are no gun-control forums? Because every one I've ever joined gets swamped by hundreds of gun nuts"

Gun control is remarkably unpopular, and it just keeps getting more unpopular.
http://www.people-press.org/2014/12/07/gun-rights-vs-gun-control/
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx
The American people increasingly support increased individual rights, whether it is marihuana legalization, pro-choice, same sex marriage or gun rights.
Deal with it.

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Observations on the nature of the debate on gun control. [View all] virginia mountainman Jan 2015 OP

That's happening even as we speak in the other gun group. GGJohn Jan 2015 #1

well as soon as they get a host again Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #16

what honest debate exists in this forum? samsingh Jan 2015 #59

Much more honest than in the other group. GGJohn Jan 2015 #60

Yes it is quite amazing Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #63

"And you're certainly not one to talk about honesty."????? samsingh Jan 2015 #112

"Anti-civil liberties side"....still no idea why you have this Gungeon? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2

To irritate you. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #4

Still no idea why you post here if it irritates you. GGJohn Jan 2015 #5

Jon Stewart said last month that samsingh Jan 2015 #11

what name calling? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #25

Ammosexual. blueridge3210 Jan 2015 #29

Thanks Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #34

i don't think you need more than a second samsingh Jan 2015 #58

I do not know what you mean by that Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #61

here is one quote samsingh Jan 2015 #69

I am sorry but that is not name calling Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #73

both are hurtful samsingh Jan 2015 #78

I looked at the top poster. blueridge3210 Jan 2015 #66

I did not either, I am glad I am not the only one Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #67

really - here are some actual words right from the post samsingh Jan 2015 #71

Not even close Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #74

it is hurtful to me. what makes you believe you can tell me which is worse? samsingh Jan 2015 #77

Oh brother. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #95

same to the people shooting bullets who samsingh Jan 2015 #100

we just try and be polite Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #109

in the original post - the argument that gun controller advocates samsingh Jan 2015 #111

Oh there is listening sarisataka Jan 2015 #113

Guns need to be viewed like smoking stinking cigars in public, or wearing a swastika as a samsingh Jan 2015 #115

"the few true believers that never question the dogma" sarisataka Jan 2015 #116

That post was sent to a jury, and allowed to stand, n/t oneshooter Jan 2015 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author sarisataka Jan 2015 #119

I misunderstood your post sarisataka Jan 2015 #121

"Make gun owners the new PARIAH" beevul Jan 2015 #118

I think it's time... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #122

Oh, its well past time... N/T beevul Jan 2015 #123

guns are damaging to other people in the vicinity just like ciggrettes samsingh Jan 2015 #125

Nonsense. beevul Jan 2015 #126

That's utter nonsense, GGJohn Jan 2015 #127

Meanwhile, in GCRA, they want to block posters for what they post in other groups. beevul Jan 2015 #114

Here's another... sarisataka Jan 2015 #124

one quote samsingh Jan 2015 #70

"true believers". blueridge3210 Jan 2015 #72

being told that gun control is a religion is more hurtful than any of the other terms. samsingh Jan 2015 #79

"More hurtful" is in the eye of the beholder. n/t beevul Jan 2015 #80

Not that I use the term but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #81

If being told that gun control is a religion is hurtful blueridge3210 Jan 2015 #84

your gun buddies asked for a reference which i provided only samsingh Jan 2015 #87

too bad you did not answer what I actually asked Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #88

being called a profound waist (sic) of time samsingh Jan 2015 #98

You said name calling. I asked twice what names Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #103

"that's why you need guns to feel safe and snuggly" blueridge3210 Jan 2015 #96

true, it's over the top samsingh Jan 2015 #99

you can't see the name calling in the post samsingh Jan 2015 #57

no thin skin Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #62

How about names like "gun lover", "ammosexual", and "gun nut"? benEzra Jan 2015 #35

Pot calling kettle black. Call the waaambulance. pablo_marmol Jan 2015 #54

care to answer for the posts in the subthread Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #55

care to answer any of the questions Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #17

You should get rid of the "anti civil liberty" phrase. upaloopa Jan 2015 #3

Ask Fred if he thinks women should possess the civil liberty to shoot rapists. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #56

he fails to answer Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #64

If he is so embarrassed by what he believes why cling to it, especially when believing it leads to Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #65

Religion. Dogma? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #6

You're not posting in the safe have. GGJohn Jan 2015 #7

Too bad Neon Gods Jan 2015 #9

Indeed. kioa Jan 2015 #33

Welcome to DU :) We do also have a gun control forum, and it drives the gun lovers nuts Electric Monk Jan 2015 #8

No, not really Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #19

I think if you allowed posters to correct misinformation... beevul Jan 2015 #24

well at least over in the other group Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #26

The point of the GCRA Group is to keep out the bullshit that your side spews. Electric Monk Jan 2015 #27

yes, you will make a great host Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #28

Welcome to DU. This little area of DU is a microcosm of the other forums you speak of, I thought it Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10

What the NRA doesn't realize... Neon Gods Jan 2015 #14

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #15

Ummm... Neon Gods Jan 2015 #22

Gun Control was the only issue that led to recalls (3 of them) kioa Jan 2015 #23

You mean gun owners openly broke the law? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #42

do you have a problem with civil disobedience? gejohnston Jan 2015 #43

On the courthouse steps, no less. kioa Jan 2015 #44

So how do we differ? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #46

You support taking rights away from innocent Americans. I support protecting their rights. kioa Jan 2015 #49

WTF? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #82

at lease our host allows you to post here Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #20

welcome to DU gejohnston Jan 2015 #12

Thank you for your reply Neon Gods Jan 2015 #32

You mean this CDC? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #36

The CDC originally got its gun funding yanked because it became laughably partisan. benEzra Jan 2015 #39

but those are scary Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #40

let's see gejohnston Jan 2015 #41

I want both sides to have input to any gov. study Neon Gods Jan 2015 #45

to start with gejohnston Jan 2015 #48

So are you willing to back up your words... sarisataka Jan 2015 #13

at least we do not require a safe haven Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #18

The CDC report commissioned by Pres Obama stated: kioa Jan 2015 #21

"From my point of view, gun control advocates are willing to compromise..." beevul Jan 2015 #30

I would add that when a compromise position is prefaced with a petronius Jan 2015 #31

seems to be common Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #38

I disagree Neon Gods Jan 2015 #85

Well no, I would call that more of a tactic than a compromise worthy of the name petronius Jan 2015 #90

I would call that a pact. Neon Gods Jan 2015 #91

Good to know ... Straw Man Jan 2015 #94

Are you God? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #97

Hyperbolic much? Straw Man Jan 2015 #101

You don't know what the framers would think about the situation today Neon Gods Jan 2015 #102

actually, no gejohnston Jan 2015 #104

Talk about a myth with legs sarisataka Jan 2015 #105

Heh Neon Gods Jan 2015 #107

I will patiently wait sarisataka Jan 2015 #108

Response. Straw Man Jan 2015 #106

From the top... beevul Jan 2015 #110

I would like to hear that also Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #37

So what do you want from us? Neon Gods Jan 2015 #47

what I want? gejohnston Jan 2015 #50

Funny, I thought we were talking compromise Neon Gods Jan 2015 #51

what have we got in the past 75 years Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #52

in return? gejohnston Jan 2015 #53

No... Neon Gods Jan 2015 #83

simple. gejohnston Jan 2015 #89

My list shedevil69taz Jan 2015 #68

I like those Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #75

That is a nice list, however................... oneshooter Jan 2015 #76

Sigh, I'll bite. I do offer give-and-take. sir pball Jan 2015 #86

I don't find these suggestions unreasonable Neon Gods Jan 2015 #92

I'm am becoming a NRA Certified pistol, rifle, and shotgun instructor. Big_Mike Jan 2015 #93

So there you are, looking in a mirror AceWheeler Jan 2015 #120