Gun Control & RKBA

randys1

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104. Another response that has nothing to do with anything,

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:50 PM

Feb 2015

Left field would be a generous way of describing that response

you CANT win...

I am for LESS guns and LESS death, you are not.

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Emily FINALLY gets her gun. [View all] VScott Feb 2015 OP

These folks want people dead, it helps the statistics ileus Feb 2015 #1

A right wing Republican, worked in the Bush administration, and for FAUX and the Moonie Times Electric Monk Feb 2015 #2

Tell us again how you're the arbitar of who belongs GGJohn Feb 2015 #3

DU Terms Of Service Electric Monk Feb 2015 #4

So because we are criticizing DC's firearms laws, GGJohn Feb 2015 #5

When you support right wing causes, it makes you a right winger too. Self-evident. nt Electric Monk Feb 2015 #9

Criticizing DC's firearm laws is a RW cause? GGJohn Feb 2015 #11

For controllers blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #12

Untrue. There are many parts of the PATRIOT ACT that I think go way too far. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #13

And how about laws blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #14

That again? I have no problem complying, even though I don't have to where I live. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #15

So you find the law "reasonable"? (nt) blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #16

It doesn't matter what I think of that law, but I love how I'm inside your head rent free over it. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #17

Sure it matters. blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #19

twisting in the wind again Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #59

It matters when you stake a claim to being "reasonable" beevul Feb 2015 #21

So is it reasonble or not Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #58

How do you feel about kiddie porn laws. Reasonable or no? Photographs never killed anyone. nt Electric Monk Feb 2015 #64

Logic Fail. Epic. blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #70

Hand drawn or computer generated kiddie porn can land you in jail, too, so the fail is all yours. nt Electric Monk Feb 2015 #74

That part, I would have an issue with as an overstep Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #77

so did you call me an idiot or not? Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #78

amazing how easy that as Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #76

reasonable Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #75

Computer generated or hand drawn, with no actual kids involved, can still land you in jail. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #79

see my other response Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #81

I agree. Listen to what one prominent right-winger had to say about race recently: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #25

I dont have a problem with rightwing views on this site, but when those who hold those views randys1 Feb 2015 #27

What's the problem? DU allows the followers of a crypto-fascist billionaire to post here friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #29

Gun people are entertaining...problem is guns kill people and are not necessary in a randys1 Feb 2015 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #31

Show me this "civilized society" of which you speak. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #34

are you in a contest for straw man of the year? LOL randys1 Feb 2015 #35

You said we live in a civilized society which made owning a gun obselete. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #37

There are several links on this thread showing you that a gun in the home randys1 Feb 2015 #40

"We live in a civilized society where using a gun for self protection is RARELY done." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #42

By the way, for someone bellyaching about strawmen it took a lot of chutzpah to write -- Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #39

Well, we have established owning a gun for protection is not necessary or a reality randys1 Feb 2015 #41

Say who? You? Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #63

He likes to play fast and loose with terms, i.e. the previous accusation of my having made a threat. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #67

yep, appears he just called me an idiot Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #73

We don't live in the 'civilized society' you spoke of, and you cannot uninvent guns friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #43

I am not a member of any such church randys1 Feb 2015 #44

"Could it be the NRA and gun mfgs here are so strong..." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #48

Didnt the majority of their membership want background checks? Why didnt that happen? randys1 Feb 2015 #51

"Didnt the majority of their membership want background checks? Why didnt that happen?" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #53

"If you're so eager to see UBCs why scuttle the legislation with impotent measures like magazine... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #55

very true Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #68

Is this law reasonable Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #66

"I want a gun to play with and it doesn't matter how many have to die for me to retain that right" friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #36

I simply said that self defense is not a legitimate reason to own a gun for most of us randys1 Feb 2015 #38

It's not up to you to make that choice for others. Let *your* leaders set an example... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #47

Ahh, so we just keep killing kids and so on, got it. Not up to a society to say no more randys1 Feb 2015 #49

"Ahh, so we just keep killing kids and so on" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #52

Ahh, a Lovejoy's Law reference! Your sort do *so* love emotional arguments: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #54

wow Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #65

what about the others "most" Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #69

So you admit that owning a gun for fun, is more important to you than stopping the slaughter randys1 Feb 2015 #96

And recreation is an excellent reason. hack89 Feb 2015 #88

And even though gun ownership leads to FAR more deaths than if we did not have guns randys1 Feb 2015 #94

It is the same reason I refuse to give up drinking beer and bourbon. hack89 Feb 2015 #95

again, I wish more on your side would admit that it will NEVER matter how many randys1 Feb 2015 #97

We just want you to be honest and less hypocritical. hack89 Feb 2015 #98

Ridiculous argument and you know it. You were doing so well, then you went and did this LOL randys1 Feb 2015 #99

Everything I said was true to the honest reader hack89 Feb 2015 #100

Nonsense. Guns are like NOTHING ELSE and to say otherwise is nonsense. randys1 Feb 2015 #101

So the number of deaths is not relevant? hack89 Feb 2015 #102

Another response that has nothing to do with anything, randys1 Feb 2015 #104

I am for less death through different means than you hack89 Feb 2015 #106

I just realized I am in the wrong forum, not being sarcastic. randys1 Feb 2015 #107

Don't go away mad hack89 Feb 2015 #108

Oh gosh, not mad. I dont get mad when someone who is wrong argues with me LOL randys1 Feb 2015 #109

Your refusal to accept no other solution other than your own is certainly emotional. hack89 Feb 2015 #110

So you are not voting Democratic? And you dont want to work with other Democrats? randys1 Feb 2015 #111

Who else refuses to work with a liberal anti gun Democrat on non gun issues? randys1 Feb 2015 #112

I don't need to work with you to elect Dems. hack89 Feb 2015 #113

"which would mean most cops wouldnt need them anymore" EX500rider Feb 2015 #122

How many kids are you willing to mangle to death in DUI accidents or poison from over-indulgence Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #103

This is why we will have to force people to give up their toys...when alleged liberals randys1 Feb 2015 #105

You didn't answer the question, all you did was resort to authoritarianism. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #115

Last comment here so you wont use my silence to , well, silence me, which I know you want to do randys1 Feb 2015 #116

You're dodging. You're obviously scared to answer the fact that -- by your own rhetoric -- you Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #117

You are EMBARRASSING yourself -- comparing alcohol to guns-- stop it, we are losing randys1 Feb 2015 #119

That's not a refutation, that's just another dodge. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #120

Adam Lanza was a myth? He had no criminal record prior to the Sandy Hook massacre. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #121

He killed his own mother before the massacre. Or had you forgotten. N/T beevul Feb 2015 #124

No prior criminal record was the point being addressed. He was a spree killer with an ar-15. nt Electric Monk Feb 2015 #125

Well, if you are deliberately selective, to the point of ignoring the word "most" I suppose. beevul Feb 2015 #127

Direct quote: "The notion of the virgin killer is a myth." so even 1 example proves that wrong. nt Electric Monk Feb 2015 #128

Make up your mind. beevul Feb 2015 #129

WTF? Learn to read. My posts are consistent. Lanza was a "virgin" spree killer with no criminal rec. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #130

You learn to read. beevul Feb 2015 #131

Do you understand that "virgin killer" means "no prior record"? Both posts are about the same thing. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #132

I think "virgin record" would be a closer fit. beevul Feb 2015 #133

James Eagan Holmes is ANOTHER example of a spree killer with no prior record. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #134

Its the exception, not the rule. beevul Feb 2015 #136

James Holmes was also reported by a mental health professional as being potentially dangerous. The Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #137

Self-righteousness is a gateway drug ... Straw Man Feb 2015 #118

Now now, NU, you need to get with the program. beevul Feb 2015 #135

Let see - removal of arms from the common citizenry has been a RW staple for centuries... NutmegYankee Feb 2015 #45

The Democratic party platform endorses 2nd Amendment rights. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #83

subject to reasonable regulation (link) Electric Monk Feb 2015 #84

The assault weapon ban was a farce at best. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #86

"...who gets to decide what is reasonable." DonP Feb 2015 #92

Well, people who know guns... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #139

what event would of having that reinstated Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #90

My original inclination was leaning towards no, but seeing just how batshit nuts it makes you, Electric Monk Feb 2015 #114

Still can't answer a simple question Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #123

"for politically liberal people" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #7

+1000. eom. GGJohn Feb 2015 #10

And what, if anything does that have to do with her ordeal... VScott Feb 2015 #6

We don't want to be seen tolerating civil rights for the wrong sort of people, would we? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #8

Just as soon as you guys explain turning a blind eye to blooomergs racism. beevul Feb 2015 #18

The association fallacy *only* works in one direction for that sort friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #22

Except in the case of bloomberg... beevul Feb 2015 #23

They spend much energy pretending he hasn't said or done the things he has friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #24

Don't YOU forget this one oneshooter Feb 2015 #20

Can you answer this question? Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #56

Yes, i most certainly can. I know my answer. I love how it's driving you batshit nuts, too. Electric Monk Feb 2015 #62

so are you callling me an "idiot" Duckhunter935 Feb 2015 #72

Congratulations to Emily.... gcomeau Feb 2015 #26

you read the Kellerman "study" didn't you? gejohnston Feb 2015 #28

While I am familiar with it... no... gcomeau Feb 2015 #32

all of them have the same problem gejohnston Feb 2015 #57

Democrats who love their guns do so for one of two reasons, or both randys1 Feb 2015 #33

All three are great reasons. ileus Feb 2015 #60

Forgive me if I'm not cheering. Neon Gods Feb 2015 #46

Her employers have studiously ignored everyone else that has called for her dismissal friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #50

Does that make you happy? Neon Gods Feb 2015 #71

The key words here are "spoke at a rally". VScott Feb 2015 #61

It's about ethics Neon Gods Feb 2015 #80

fair enough, gejohnston Feb 2015 #82

LOL.... virginia mountainman Feb 2015 #93

That's one of those 'be careful what you wish for' kind of things. VScott Feb 2015 #126

How can anyone defend the D.C. ban? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #85

She needs that gun mwrguy Feb 2015 #87

Because every gun owner is a murderer in waiting hack89 Feb 2015 #89

It's sad we have to fight the 1% for such a basic right. ileus Feb 2015 #91

One female down, thousands of poor victims to go. ileus Feb 2015 #138