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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: Arming America [View all]

jimmy the one

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10. for a better perspective
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:40 AM
Mar 2015

nuc uni: Swiftboating by the NRA, huh? Except it wasn't the NRA, it was the university at which he taught.

Uh, that came after the swiftboating & witch hunting, & they found relatively little at fault, overall, as jon weiner points out. The table 1 which was faulty, was basically the probate records which concluded about a 14.7% firearm ownership rate in America circa rev-war, which is probably close to the truth, despite the problems bellesiles has had, when you consider the firearms available.

Here is jon weiner's support, it's pdf & I can't figure out how to copy, perhaps disabled, pg 77-79, tho read the entire thing, for a better perspective than what the gun lobby feeds you:

https://books.google.com/books?id=rYY7AAAAQBAJ&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=jon+weiner+nra+targeted+bellesiles+and+his+book+initially+the+campaign+was+restricted&source=bl&ots=hZ8vfFWvAD&sig=ohRv0M6dEaIj8D-kjoGsfXglHfE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-oH0VMfCHsulgwThp4PoDw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=jon%20weiner%20nra%20targeted%20bellesiles%20and%20his%20book%20initially%20the%20campaign%20was%20restricted&f=false

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Arming America [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 OP
witch hunting continued jimmy the one Feb 2015 #1
If he published that he counted records that do not exist Mojorabbit Feb 2015 #2
There's lots more to it than that- jimmy elided the damning conclusion... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #3
board bigot speaks jimmy the one Mar 2015 #8
That fact that outright fraud cannot be established does nothing to diminish the fact Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #4
Thank you for admitting and providing PROOF of super crappy scholarshipon Bellesiles' part. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #5
1877 jimmy the one Mar 2015 #6
Swiftboating by the NRA, huh? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #7
Yup, he was outed by fellow academics DonP Mar 2015 #9
for a better perspective jimmy the one Mar 2015 #10
The university did not bounce Bellesiles because of the NRA. They bounced him because REAL Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #11
Wiener melm00se Mar 2015 #12
well, mel jimmy the one Mar 2015 #14
No, 'disassemble' is the right word, as in "took apart" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #15
mea culpa jimmy the one Mar 2015 #17
I believe one Professor E. Clapton has best described what happened to Bellesisles... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #18
response melm00se Mar 2015 #19
some valid criticism, no doubt jimmy the one Mar 2015 #20
respone melm00se Mar 2015 #21
More utter bullshit. GGJohn Mar 2015 #13
Don't you know that the NRA secretly controls both Columbia *and* Emory universities? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #16
Bellisiles' book, IMO, crippled the academic status gun-controllers enjoyed... Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #22
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