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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: Arming America [View all]

jimmy the one

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14. well, mel
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:28 AM
Mar 2015

mel moose: Wiener is a decent historian but, in my opinion, does not write in an unbiased manner.

Neither did bellesiles critics, mel.

mel: Wiener states that there was a concerted attack on Belleisle's book that started on the internet and chat rooms but, at least in the part that I read, did not immediately support that with examples and citations.

Well, mel....

mel: Wiener also discusses that Bellesilse's under went scrutiny above and beyond that of many historical analyses but the vast majority of historical works/analyses were not awarded Bancroft Prize. Many works that are awarded prizes like this are put under a microscope as they become important works in their fields and quickly become highly cited works.

You make a fair appraisal at times, mel, & I thank you for being somewhat open minded.
Had Encyclopedia Brittanica been scrutinized by the gun lobby for being 'anti gun', Brittanica would be labeled biased, inaccurate, & guilty of falsifying information.

If a book is destined to become that important, it is critical that they be examined from all directions to ensure that it is accurate and worthy of becoming an important work.

In an ideal world it works that way, but in the political world, witch hunts thrive.

Please keep in mind that not only did Emory University disassemble Bellesilse's work, so did Columbia University.

Didn't GWBush say something like that? I think you meant 'dissemble'.

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Arming America [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 OP
witch hunting continued jimmy the one Feb 2015 #1
If he published that he counted records that do not exist Mojorabbit Feb 2015 #2
There's lots more to it than that- jimmy elided the damning conclusion... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #3
board bigot speaks jimmy the one Mar 2015 #8
That fact that outright fraud cannot be established does nothing to diminish the fact Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #4
Thank you for admitting and providing PROOF of super crappy scholarshipon Bellesiles' part. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #5
1877 jimmy the one Mar 2015 #6
Swiftboating by the NRA, huh? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #7
Yup, he was outed by fellow academics DonP Mar 2015 #9
for a better perspective jimmy the one Mar 2015 #10
The university did not bounce Bellesiles because of the NRA. They bounced him because REAL Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #11
Wiener melm00se Mar 2015 #12
well, mel jimmy the one Mar 2015 #14
No, 'disassemble' is the right word, as in "took apart" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #15
mea culpa jimmy the one Mar 2015 #17
I believe one Professor E. Clapton has best described what happened to Bellesisles... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #18
response melm00se Mar 2015 #19
some valid criticism, no doubt jimmy the one Mar 2015 #20
respone melm00se Mar 2015 #21
More utter bullshit. GGJohn Mar 2015 #13
Don't you know that the NRA secretly controls both Columbia *and* Emory universities? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #16
Bellisiles' book, IMO, crippled the academic status gun-controllers enjoyed... Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #22
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