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gejohnston

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87. Wayne is not the whole NRA
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:22 PM
Feb 2012

nor is gun rights an exclusively right wing cause. There was a time when gun control advocates leaned far to the right (as in keeping their evening attire in the linen closet), mostly in the south. It can serve the right wing's purposes as well as the left's.

Take for example the so called AWB:

Number of Democrats voting for the AWB: 50/53 (94.3%)
Number of Republicans voting for the AWB: 45/47 (95.7%)
Republicans:
Richard Shelby (AL), Frank Murkowski, Ted Stevens (AK), JOHN MCCAIN (AZ), Christopher Bond (MO), Conrad Burns (MT), Judd Gregg, Bob Smith (NH), Pete Domenici (NM), Alfonse D'Amato (NY), Duncan Faircloth, Jesse Helms (NC), Don Nickles (OK), Robert Packwood (OR), Arlen Specter (PA), John Chafee (RI), J. Thurmond (SC), Larry Pressler (SD), Kay Hutchison (TX), George Brown, Ben Campbell (CO), William Roth (DE), Connie MAck (FL), Paul Coverdell (GA), Larry Craig, Dirk Kempthorne (ID), Daniel Coats, Richard Lugar (IN), Charles Grassley (IA), Bob Dole, Nancy Kassebaum (KS), Mitch McConnell (KY), William Cohen (ME), Thad Cochran, Trent Lott (MS), Robert Bennett, Orrin Hatch (UT), James Jeffords (VT), John Warner (VA), T. Gorton (WA), Alan Simpson, Malcolm Wallop (WY)

Democrats:
Howell Heflin (AL) Dennis DeConcini (AZ), Dale Bumpers, David Pryor (AR) Barara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein (CA), Max Baucus (MT), J. Exon, J. Kerrey (NE), Richard Bryan, Harry Reid (NV), William Bradley, Frank Lautenberg (NJ), Jef Bingaman (NM), Daniel Moynihan (NY), John Glenn, Howard Metzenbaum (OH), David Boren (OK), Harris Wofford (PA), Claiborne Pell (RI), Ernest Hollings (SC), Tom Daschle (SD), Harlan Matthews, James Sasser (TN), Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman (CT), Joe Biden (DE), Bob Graham (FL), Sam Nunn (GA), Daniel Akaka, Daniel Inouye (HI), Carol Braun (IL), Thomas Harkin (IA), Wendell Ford (KY), John Breaux, John Johnston (LA), George Mitchell (ME), Barbara Mikulski, Paul Sarbanes (MD), Edward Kennedy, John Kerry (MA), Carl Levin, Don Riegle (MI), Paul Wellstone (MN), Pat Leahy (VT), Charles Robb (VA), Patty Murray (WA), Robert Byrd, John Rockefeller (WV), Herbert Kohl (WI)

Republicans voting against:
David Durenberger (MN),Mark Hatfield (OR)

Democrats voting against:
Paul Simon (IL), Russell Feingold (WI)

Not voting: Byron Dorgan - Democrat (ND)


A renewal bill was introduced in 2008, but Pelosi did not let it see the light of day.

Outside of the RR, there may be. Or even pro choice conservatives (the current crop of "conservatives" are really reactionaries and right wing radicals.)
Last time I checked the ToS, it said Democrats, supporters of Democratic candidates that range from the center to the left. That is a pretty big tent. That is the very definition of liberalism (defined as open minded and free of dogma). Is Cheney going to post pro marriage equality (which he is) at freerepublic? Probably not. DU is not freerepubic left? No. Nor should it be.

Personally, I gave up on the NRA after the hunter/environmentalist faction lost to Wayne at the Cincinnati Rebellion and jumped on the crazy train. I would like to see the best of both, but I don't see that happening.
In the mean time, I joined the these guys. http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/

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Urrrp. Don't think so Wayne. You are grossly misinformed in your little bubble. geckosfeet Feb 2012 #1
He's an asshole jpak Feb 2012 #3
Nah. Democratic gun-owners grew by 1/3 the last 2 years. Obama's safe. Due to us. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #67
With who? The flip flopping, assualt weapon banning, anti RKBA former Massachusetts governor? bluestateguy Feb 2012 #2
unfortunately, Obama has done nothing to counter the death merchants. bowens43 Feb 2012 #4
There are more death spewers than ever, some with smoothbore rifled barrels... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #10
with or without barrel shrouds? Remmah2 Feb 2012 #88
WTF are you talking about? rl6214 Feb 2012 #12
"Thank you, but I prefer it my way" petronius Feb 2012 #19
Great movie... ellisonz Feb 2012 #32
Over seas in third world countries rl6214 Feb 2012 #34
Some people would say... ellisonz Feb 2012 #35
I think I would have to watch the movie again to see where they were selling their guns to... rl6214 Feb 2012 #57
So you agree that small arms-proliferation is an issue of international concern? ellisonz Feb 2012 #58
You do know that the first and second world governments ARE the largest weapons dealers rl6214 Feb 2012 #59
Of course I know that... ellisonz Feb 2012 #61
LaPierre has gone from "extreme worst-case extrapolation" to "inventing his own reality". krispos42 Feb 2012 #5
NRA at racist CPAC rooting for the defeat of a Democratic President. baldguy Feb 2012 #6
I don't belong to the NRA so I don't have a dog in this fight BUT rl6214 Feb 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #7
One in progress, here. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #68
nra = national racist association. the gun industry loves obama = huge sales increase nt msongs Feb 2012 #8
I don't belong to the NRA so I don't have a dog in this fight BUT rl6214 Feb 2012 #14
This anti-Obama tirade by the NRA annoys me. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #9
The NRA shares the stage at CPAC with white supremacists. baldguy Feb 2012 #11
Are you watching the CPAC conference? rl6214 Feb 2012 #16
Are you kidding? You should really pay more attention to what your friends are doing: baldguy Feb 2012 #17
I strongly support The Bill of Rights DWC Feb 2012 #51
You didn't even bother to look at any of the links I posted, did you? baldguy Feb 2012 #52
Propagandists restating DWC Feb 2012 #55
Right. The SPLC is a bunch of propagandists. And the CCC just sponsors innocent community picnics. baldguy Feb 2012 #56
I am certain not all gun control advocates are communists. DWC Feb 2012 #63
Nope. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #37
Wrong. You do support that - every time you send the NRA money. baldguy Feb 2012 #38
Did the NRA set up the venue? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #42
Ohhhhhhhhhh.... The World Famous "DU Litmus Test"... BiggJawn Feb 2012 #45
No, people who support Republican front groups aren't "blue" enough to be Democrats. baldguy Feb 2012 #47
Says you. BiggJawn Feb 2012 #48
Where do you draw the line? The NRA unabashedly stands with racists & proudly works with the GOP baldguy Feb 2012 #50
Perhaps you should just demand that Skinner throw anyone that doesn't bash the NRA off DU? DonP Feb 2012 #60
Are you accusing Atypical of racism? Let's be clear, now. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #69
The poster chose where to stand; I just pointed out that it wasn't the cleanest spot on the planet. baldguy Feb 2012 #73
The ACLU has supported the Civil Rights of the KKK. PavePusher Feb 2012 #77
Show me where the ACLU is campaigning against the Democratic President of the United States. baldguy Feb 2012 #78
"But I'm not annoyed enough to quit the NRA." ellisonz Feb 2012 #33
The NRA works at what it is supposed to do. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #36
Do you have something to say other than the juvenile name calling? rl6214 Feb 2012 #13
LaPierre is an asshole jpak Feb 2012 #20
You seem to trust the NRA more than Obama? Odd on a liberal forum. Logical Feb 2012 #26
Please point out ANYWHERE that I have said I trust, support, back or even like the NRA. rl6214 Feb 2012 #28
I guess I was curious why you cared if someone insulted any asshole from the NRA....and your.... Logical Feb 2012 #30
As I posted a couple of other times, I do not belong to the NRA or read any of their crap rl6214 Feb 2012 #31
The gun industry has made bank over paranoia like this. era veteran Feb 2012 #18
One thing is certain: Gun-controllers MADE the modern NRA... SteveW Feb 2012 #70
How can gun restrictionists let a flaming a-hole like LaPierre spank your butts so badly. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #21
LaPierre's extremeism, like that of the RW generally, is a sign of failure. baldguy Feb 2012 #22
the NRA's money gejohnston Feb 2012 #23
All you can do is attack me speciously; you can't answer the question honestly. baldguy Feb 2012 #24
not attacking you gejohnston Feb 2012 #25
"Would you still despise the NRA if the hunter/environmentalists took control back.....?" tucsonlib Feb 2012 #27
already a member gejohnston Feb 2012 #29
Here ya go: As an NRA member I denounce the NRAs participation in CPAC... aikoaiko Feb 2012 #39
Actions speak louder than words. baldguy Feb 2012 #40
I support reelecting President Obama 100%. And as far as I know, he accepts my support. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #41
100%? When you give money to one of the major lobbying groups actively opposing him? baldguy Feb 2012 #43
Because you are confused your comment is forgivable. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #44
Are you really so obtuse that you believe there is any difference? baldguy Feb 2012 #46
Obtuse? Thats awfully funny coming from you. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #53
It's not "No True Scotsman", it's the variation... BiggJawn Feb 2012 #49
It is tiresome, but because RKBA supporters are winning I try to be tolerant of anti-RKBA folks. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #54
But you do not renounce your membership in the NRA. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #64
I call it politick. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #65
The ACLU has supported the Civil Rights of the KKK. PavePusher Feb 2012 #76
With All Due Respect.... tucsonlib Feb 2012 #79
I don't think the ACLU is trying to eject Obama from the White House. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #80
one question I have gejohnston Feb 2012 #81
Let's see Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #82
I can't speak for gejohnston Feb 2012 #83
"Ted Nugent speaks for himself"? tucsonlib Feb 2012 #85
Gun-controllers made the modern NRA. You can thank yourself for that. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #71
Stupidity, Right-Wing Political Enablers, And Rampant Paranoia Made The Modern NRA. Paladin Feb 2012 #74
you still need gejohnston Feb 2012 #75
I'm a life member of the NRA, but get real Wayne Kennah Feb 2012 #62
The NRA is going to make itself irrelevant, and hemorrage members this year. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #66
Gun-controllers are obsessed with the NRA. Figures, since they juiced 'em up. nt SteveW Feb 2012 #72
Check Out These Folks: tucsonlib Feb 2012 #84
And yet the NRA continues to have a huge fan club here Doctor_J Feb 2012 #86
Wayne is not the whole NRA gejohnston Feb 2012 #87
Can you cite some? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #89
There are a couple... ellisonz Feb 2012 #90
Ah, a 'couple', I see. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #91
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