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In reply to the discussion: National Rifle Association VP says gun owners will make Obama our ex-president in 2012 [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)87. Wayne is not the whole NRA
nor is gun rights an exclusively right wing cause. There was a time when gun control advocates leaned far to the right (as in keeping their evening attire in the linen closet), mostly in the south. It can serve the right wing's purposes as well as the left's.
Take for example the so called AWB:
Number of Democrats voting for the AWB: 50/53 (94.3%)
Number of Republicans voting for the AWB: 45/47 (95.7%)
Republicans:
Richard Shelby (AL), Frank Murkowski, Ted Stevens (AK), JOHN MCCAIN (AZ), Christopher Bond (MO), Conrad Burns (MT), Judd Gregg, Bob Smith (NH), Pete Domenici (NM), Alfonse D'Amato (NY), Duncan Faircloth, Jesse Helms (NC), Don Nickles (OK), Robert Packwood (OR), Arlen Specter (PA), John Chafee (RI), J. Thurmond (SC), Larry Pressler (SD), Kay Hutchison (TX), George Brown, Ben Campbell (CO), William Roth (DE), Connie MAck (FL), Paul Coverdell (GA), Larry Craig, Dirk Kempthorne (ID), Daniel Coats, Richard Lugar (IN), Charles Grassley (IA), Bob Dole, Nancy Kassebaum (KS), Mitch McConnell (KY), William Cohen (ME), Thad Cochran, Trent Lott (MS), Robert Bennett, Orrin Hatch (UT), James Jeffords (VT), John Warner (VA), T. Gorton (WA), Alan Simpson, Malcolm Wallop (WY)
Democrats:
Howell Heflin (AL) Dennis DeConcini (AZ), Dale Bumpers, David Pryor (AR) Barara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein (CA), Max Baucus (MT), J. Exon, J. Kerrey (NE), Richard Bryan, Harry Reid (NV), William Bradley, Frank Lautenberg (NJ), Jef Bingaman (NM), Daniel Moynihan (NY), John Glenn, Howard Metzenbaum (OH), David Boren (OK), Harris Wofford (PA), Claiborne Pell (RI), Ernest Hollings (SC), Tom Daschle (SD), Harlan Matthews, James Sasser (TN), Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman (CT), Joe Biden (DE), Bob Graham (FL), Sam Nunn (GA), Daniel Akaka, Daniel Inouye (HI), Carol Braun (IL), Thomas Harkin (IA), Wendell Ford (KY), John Breaux, John Johnston (LA), George Mitchell (ME), Barbara Mikulski, Paul Sarbanes (MD), Edward Kennedy, John Kerry (MA), Carl Levin, Don Riegle (MI), Paul Wellstone (MN), Pat Leahy (VT), Charles Robb (VA), Patty Murray (WA), Robert Byrd, John Rockefeller (WV), Herbert Kohl (WI)
Republicans voting against:
David Durenberger (MN),Mark Hatfield (OR)
Democrats voting against:
Paul Simon (IL), Russell Feingold (WI)
Not voting: Byron Dorgan - Democrat (ND)
Number of Republicans voting for the AWB: 45/47 (95.7%)
Republicans:
Richard Shelby (AL), Frank Murkowski, Ted Stevens (AK), JOHN MCCAIN (AZ), Christopher Bond (MO), Conrad Burns (MT), Judd Gregg, Bob Smith (NH), Pete Domenici (NM), Alfonse D'Amato (NY), Duncan Faircloth, Jesse Helms (NC), Don Nickles (OK), Robert Packwood (OR), Arlen Specter (PA), John Chafee (RI), J. Thurmond (SC), Larry Pressler (SD), Kay Hutchison (TX), George Brown, Ben Campbell (CO), William Roth (DE), Connie MAck (FL), Paul Coverdell (GA), Larry Craig, Dirk Kempthorne (ID), Daniel Coats, Richard Lugar (IN), Charles Grassley (IA), Bob Dole, Nancy Kassebaum (KS), Mitch McConnell (KY), William Cohen (ME), Thad Cochran, Trent Lott (MS), Robert Bennett, Orrin Hatch (UT), James Jeffords (VT), John Warner (VA), T. Gorton (WA), Alan Simpson, Malcolm Wallop (WY)
Democrats:
Howell Heflin (AL) Dennis DeConcini (AZ), Dale Bumpers, David Pryor (AR) Barara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein (CA), Max Baucus (MT), J. Exon, J. Kerrey (NE), Richard Bryan, Harry Reid (NV), William Bradley, Frank Lautenberg (NJ), Jef Bingaman (NM), Daniel Moynihan (NY), John Glenn, Howard Metzenbaum (OH), David Boren (OK), Harris Wofford (PA), Claiborne Pell (RI), Ernest Hollings (SC), Tom Daschle (SD), Harlan Matthews, James Sasser (TN), Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman (CT), Joe Biden (DE), Bob Graham (FL), Sam Nunn (GA), Daniel Akaka, Daniel Inouye (HI), Carol Braun (IL), Thomas Harkin (IA), Wendell Ford (KY), John Breaux, John Johnston (LA), George Mitchell (ME), Barbara Mikulski, Paul Sarbanes (MD), Edward Kennedy, John Kerry (MA), Carl Levin, Don Riegle (MI), Paul Wellstone (MN), Pat Leahy (VT), Charles Robb (VA), Patty Murray (WA), Robert Byrd, John Rockefeller (WV), Herbert Kohl (WI)
Republicans voting against:
David Durenberger (MN),Mark Hatfield (OR)
Democrats voting against:
Paul Simon (IL), Russell Feingold (WI)
Not voting: Byron Dorgan - Democrat (ND)
A renewal bill was introduced in 2008, but Pelosi did not let it see the light of day.
Outside of the RR, there may be. Or even pro choice conservatives (the current crop of "conservatives" are really reactionaries and right wing radicals.)
Last time I checked the ToS, it said Democrats, supporters of Democratic candidates that range from the center to the left. That is a pretty big tent. That is the very definition of liberalism (defined as open minded and free of dogma). Is Cheney going to post pro marriage equality (which he is) at freerepublic? Probably not. DU is not freerepubic left? No. Nor should it be.
Personally, I gave up on the NRA after the hunter/environmentalist faction lost to Wayne at the Cincinnati Rebellion and jumped on the crazy train. I would like to see the best of both, but I don't see that happening.
In the mean time, I joined the these guys. http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/
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National Rifle Association VP says gun owners will make Obama our ex-president in 2012 [View all]
jpak
Feb 2012
OP
Urrrp. Don't think so Wayne. You are grossly misinformed in your little bubble.
geckosfeet
Feb 2012
#1
Nah. Democratic gun-owners grew by 1/3 the last 2 years. Obama's safe. Due to us. nt
SteveW
Feb 2012
#67
With who? The flip flopping, assualt weapon banning, anti RKBA former Massachusetts governor?
bluestateguy
Feb 2012
#2
There are more death spewers than ever, some with smoothbore rifled barrels...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2012
#10
I think I would have to watch the movie again to see where they were selling their guns to...
rl6214
Feb 2012
#57
So you agree that small arms-proliferation is an issue of international concern?
ellisonz
Feb 2012
#58
You do know that the first and second world governments ARE the largest weapons dealers
rl6214
Feb 2012
#59
LaPierre has gone from "extreme worst-case extrapolation" to "inventing his own reality".
krispos42
Feb 2012
#5
nra = national racist association. the gun industry loves obama = huge sales increase nt
msongs
Feb 2012
#8
Are you kidding? You should really pay more attention to what your friends are doing:
baldguy
Feb 2012
#17
Right. The SPLC is a bunch of propagandists. And the CCC just sponsors innocent community picnics.
baldguy
Feb 2012
#56
No, people who support Republican front groups aren't "blue" enough to be Democrats.
baldguy
Feb 2012
#47
Where do you draw the line? The NRA unabashedly stands with racists & proudly works with the GOP
baldguy
Feb 2012
#50
Perhaps you should just demand that Skinner throw anyone that doesn't bash the NRA off DU?
DonP
Feb 2012
#60
The poster chose where to stand; I just pointed out that it wasn't the cleanest spot on the planet.
baldguy
Feb 2012
#73
Show me where the ACLU is campaigning against the Democratic President of the United States.
baldguy
Feb 2012
#78
Please point out ANYWHERE that I have said I trust, support, back or even like the NRA.
rl6214
Feb 2012
#28
I guess I was curious why you cared if someone insulted any asshole from the NRA....and your....
Logical
Feb 2012
#30
As I posted a couple of other times, I do not belong to the NRA or read any of their crap
rl6214
Feb 2012
#31
How can gun restrictionists let a flaming a-hole like LaPierre spank your butts so badly.
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#21
All you can do is attack me speciously; you can't answer the question honestly.
baldguy
Feb 2012
#24
"Would you still despise the NRA if the hunter/environmentalists took control back.....?"
tucsonlib
Feb 2012
#27
I support reelecting President Obama 100%. And as far as I know, he accepts my support.
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#41
100%? When you give money to one of the major lobbying groups actively opposing him?
baldguy
Feb 2012
#43
It is tiresome, but because RKBA supporters are winning I try to be tolerant of anti-RKBA folks.
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#54
Stupidity, Right-Wing Political Enablers, And Rampant Paranoia Made The Modern NRA.
Paladin
Feb 2012
#74
The NRA is going to make itself irrelevant, and hemorrage members this year.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#66
Gun-controllers are obsessed with the NRA. Figures, since they juiced 'em up. nt
SteveW
Feb 2012
#72