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hack89

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Mon Apr 6, 2015, 09:15 AM Apr 2015

Concealed carry predictions way off target (No blood in the streets) [View all]

When the Wisconsin Senate gathered in June of 2011 to take up a bill allowing the state's citizens to carry concealed weapons, protesters around the Capitol building were still in a state of high dudgeon. As a result, Republicans were accused of "rushing" through "socially divisive" bills such as concealed carry and voter identification through the legislative process while the state's attention was focused elsewhere.

Naturally, there were hyperbolic predictions that Wisconsin would become the "Wild West," where hypothetical people at traffic stops would suddenly open fire on one another. Current Senate Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling (D-La Crosse), whose parents were tragically shot to death more than 20 years ago, once argued that legalizing concealed weapons "kills people," and that "Guns will beget guns."

Yet nearly four years later, nearly 250,000 concealed carry licenses have been issued, and one would be hard-pressed to notice any difference in the state. Total violent crimes and murders dropped between 2010 and 2011, the first year concealed carry was partially in effect. After increasing between 2011 and 2012, both measures dropped once again in 2013. Between 2008 and 2013, Wisconsin averaged about 153 murders a year, a far cry from the average of 225 between 1990 and 1995.

Of course, anyone paying attention to the facts would have known this to be the case. When Wisconsin passed concealed-carry, it became the 49th state to do so. And upon passage of similar laws in other states, exactly none of them became the open firing ranges concealed carry opponents feared.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/concealed-carry-predictions-way-off-target-b99474747z1-298642531.html
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Their fears never really pan out, they sell fear to folks that are ignorant of the facts ileus Apr 2015 #1
I can't imagine what it is to live in fear like that every minute of the day. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #5
Started our 2nd year in Illinois, 124,000 permits and still waiting ... DonP Apr 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author petronius Apr 2015 #3
No blood in calculuz classes either Lurks Often Apr 2015 #4
Wasn't there supposed to be a daily re-enactment... NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #6
The control side is absolutely sure of so many things that just never happen DonP Apr 2015 #7
It isn't just that. beevul Apr 2015 #8
I once used, "small I ignorant" in a post - it got hidden DonP Apr 2015 #9
a gn's false premises jimmy the one Apr 2015 #10
Are those gonzo stats? Straw Man Apr 2015 #11
unrealistic & ridiculous jimmy the one Apr 2015 #13
I lie? That's as obnoxious as it is untrue, Jimmy. Straw Man Apr 2015 #14
ignorable jimmy the one Apr 2015 #16
Ignoble. Straw Man Apr 2015 #17
2 + 2 = 4, a four-gone conclusion jimmy the one Apr 2015 #20
Mixing causation with coincidence again, huh? Straw Man Apr 2015 #21
your inherent weakness jimmy the one Apr 2015 #22
One hardly knows where to begin ... Straw Man Apr 2015 #23
playing stupid? jimmy the one Apr 2015 #24
Ad nauseum, ad absurdum. Straw Man Apr 2015 #28
scrutiny jimmy the one Apr 2015 #30
I'll try to make this very plain for you, Jimmy. Straw Man Apr 2015 #31
Hmm....interesting exchange. blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #32
pac man jimmy the one Apr 2015 #25
You just don't get it, do you? Straw Man Apr 2015 #27
It's absolutely "bigoted and sickening" not to mention a shameful POV DonP Apr 2015 #12
nobody pays attention to jimmy, except, nobodies jimmy the one Apr 2015 #15
Irony. Straw Man Apr 2015 #18
parry to parry jimmy the one Apr 2015 #26
In other words ... Straw Man Apr 2015 #29
A few observations... jeepnstein Apr 2015 #19
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