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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
30. scrutiny
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 12:10 PM
Apr 2015

I wrote: Where did I say you need disprove causation? post it;
..straw man wrote: OK -- here: {JTO}To argue against this simply by continuously citing 'correlation does not prove causation', as if that in itself disproves a causative effect, demonstrates a sophomoric understanding of the axiom itself.


I'll repeat, where did I say you need disprove causation? having problems with sentence comprehension again?

.. that you cite 'correlation does not prove causation', does not equate to me saying that you need disprove causation.
I made an observation that is commonplace with pro gun crowd, that the axiom is used as some blanket denial of there possibly being a causative effect from a correlation. But I did not contend anyone need 'disprove' causation.
.. another saying: absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.

straw man: You are defending your position by saying that I haven't disproven a causative effect; that much is abundantly clear. And I am telling you that I don't have to.

... I say that the axiom 'correlation does not prove causation' does not disprove a causative effect. You argue as if it did. The axiom as intended means that correlations need logical & scientific scrutiny before being linked to causation, causation cannot just be arbitrarily applied.
You certainly don't have to disprove causation, but don't act as if you did, by merely citing the axiom.

Their fears never really pan out, they sell fear to folks that are ignorant of the facts ileus Apr 2015 #1
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This message was self-deleted by its author petronius Apr 2015 #3
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The control side is absolutely sure of so many things that just never happen DonP Apr 2015 #7
It isn't just that. beevul Apr 2015 #8
I once used, "small I ignorant" in a post - it got hidden DonP Apr 2015 #9
a gn's false premises jimmy the one Apr 2015 #10
Are those gonzo stats? Straw Man Apr 2015 #11
unrealistic & ridiculous jimmy the one Apr 2015 #13
I lie? That's as obnoxious as it is untrue, Jimmy. Straw Man Apr 2015 #14
ignorable jimmy the one Apr 2015 #16
Ignoble. Straw Man Apr 2015 #17
2 + 2 = 4, a four-gone conclusion jimmy the one Apr 2015 #20
Mixing causation with coincidence again, huh? Straw Man Apr 2015 #21
your inherent weakness jimmy the one Apr 2015 #22
One hardly knows where to begin ... Straw Man Apr 2015 #23
playing stupid? jimmy the one Apr 2015 #24
Ad nauseum, ad absurdum. Straw Man Apr 2015 #28
scrutiny jimmy the one Apr 2015 #30
I'll try to make this very plain for you, Jimmy. Straw Man Apr 2015 #31
Hmm....interesting exchange. blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #32
pac man jimmy the one Apr 2015 #25
You just don't get it, do you? Straw Man Apr 2015 #27
It's absolutely "bigoted and sickening" not to mention a shameful POV DonP Apr 2015 #12
nobody pays attention to jimmy, except, nobodies jimmy the one Apr 2015 #15
Irony. Straw Man Apr 2015 #18
parry to parry jimmy the one Apr 2015 #26
In other words ... Straw Man Apr 2015 #29
A few observations... jeepnstein Apr 2015 #19
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