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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: Has the N.R.A. Won? [View all]

jimmy the one

(2,776 posts)
13. little people, got no reason...
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:26 PM
Apr 2015

vscott: Certainly the NRA has some impact and influence, but it's the little people in the trenches (the vast majority aren't even NRA members), that fight the hardest.

Huh? the 'little people in the trenches' fight the hardest? daffy reasoning; they're certainly not 'well regulated' to accomplish much, just a scattered & Unorganized militia. 'Little people' generally don't contribute to the nra, they generally support background checks, a significant percentage even support hi-cap magazine bans, & a significant percentage of 'little people' who own guns are dems who support gun control & oppose the nra. These 'little people' don't buy off congressmen with bought & paid lobbyists, it's the gun lobby which does that.

vscott: I see the the NRA as useful (but effective), idiots. But as long as the Micheal Bloomburgs, Brady Campaigns, Demanding Mom's, VPC's, Sandy Hook Promise's, etc exists, I'll do whatever I need to to do align myself with those that support our 2nd amendment rights.

Those groups are all your enemies, eh? an enemy (the nra) of your enemy is your friend, eh? Which of those gun control groups suppresses research into gun injury & gun possession?
... Does doing whatever you need to do, include support of suppressing research on gun injury & gun related problems? like the gwbush admin suppressed funding for gun research, gun injury causes & affects? WHY did they do that if guns are so instrumental in lowering the violent crime rate? (a faulty reasoning, since gun ownership fell dramatically ~30% during the highest rate of decline in violent crime rates, the period from ~1993 to 2000 - it was the decline in gun ownership which played an instrumental part in the violent crime drop, not the increase in national gunstock, which went largely to existing gun owners).

Charles Blow, NY Times (whom I usually enjoy reading):rather than these tragedies being a cause for pause in ownership of guns, gun ownership has spiked in the wake of these shootings.

Gun SALES have spiked, Charles, largely amongst existing gun owners, not spiking gun ownership (except slightly perhaps in some areas, but not significant overall); gunnuts answering some 2ndA fantasy cattle call to thwart threatened gun control efforts by stocking up on ammo & new firearms, esp those termed assault rifles.

Charles, apri 2015: A striking report released Friday by the Pew Research Center revealed that “for the first time, more Americans say that protecting gun rights is more important than controlling gun ownership, 52 to 46.”

Charles not up to speed on this; the report was released dec 3, 2014, over 4 months ago, & it was admitted by pew that their wording was misleading in some fashion. Also, it's only one poll & needs be corroborated by another reputable source (which pew certainly is).

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Has the N.R.A. Won? [View all] VScott Apr 2015 OP
Have you ever shot someone ? Or stood by and saw someone shot and then go down? AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #1
Once, in Reno... VScott Apr 2015 #2
No not at all, I just feel that some are better off playing Nintendo games....l have my license AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #3
So you never felt the need to take a life yourself? AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #4
I hope that day never comes VScott Apr 2015 #6
I'm not sure one is truly prepared, it's not Bad Boys where each one that drops is cheered for.. AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #7
Option A VScott Apr 2015 #8
NRA = Negotiate Rights Away. ileus Apr 2015 #5
Yes. bvf Apr 2015 #9
Somthing that we have long talked about down here, that gets ignored... virginia mountainman Apr 2015 #10
+ 1,000 NT pablo_marmol Apr 2015 #19
A friendly call out to the pro-2A members who post regularly in this Group: Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #11
*Many* years ago when I first started researching gun violence via books and the internet pablo_marmol Apr 2015 #18
Thanks. I have made the same recommendation as well, no matter ones views. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #26
To Skinner's Credit DonP Apr 2015 #27
Yep, we are WAAAYYYYYY above the curve in this topic.. virginia mountainman Apr 2015 #22
Cleveland seems to be taking advice from Chicago? DonP Apr 2015 #23
Maybe we could start a gofundme... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #24
A Big Rig Tow truck couldn't get it out DonP Apr 2015 #25
So the MSM got everyone to believe that violent crime is rising ... and people bought guns? DonP Apr 2015 #12
"Wow, who could have seen that one coming?" pablo_marmol Apr 2015 #20
little people, got no reason... jimmy the one Apr 2015 #13
Ask and ye shall receive Shamash Apr 2015 #14
gong. wrong. jimmy the one Apr 2015 #15
What exactly -is- that difference, then? Shamash Apr 2015 #16
OT: according to the song, that's "short people" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2015 #17
"What's omitted, ignored or neglected is the grass roots movement that has been taking place pablo_marmol Apr 2015 #21
The NRA gets too much credit loooneranger Apr 2015 #28
Welcome to DU. GGJohn Apr 2015 #29
Thanks loooneranger Apr 2015 #30
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