Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Has the N.R.A. Won? [View all]jimmy the one
(2,776 posts)vscott: Certainly the NRA has some impact and influence, but it's the little people in the trenches (the vast majority aren't even NRA members), that fight the hardest.
Huh? the 'little people in the trenches' fight the hardest? daffy reasoning; they're certainly not 'well regulated' to accomplish much, just a scattered & Unorganized militia. 'Little people' generally don't contribute to the nra, they generally support background checks, a significant percentage even support hi-cap magazine bans, & a significant percentage of 'little people' who own guns are dems who support gun control & oppose the nra. These 'little people' don't buy off congressmen with bought & paid lobbyists, it's the gun lobby which does that.
vscott: I see the the NRA as useful (but effective), idiots. But as long as the Micheal Bloomburgs, Brady Campaigns, Demanding Mom's, VPC's, Sandy Hook Promise's, etc exists, I'll do whatever I need to to do align myself with those that support our 2nd amendment rights.
Those groups are all your enemies, eh? an enemy (the nra) of your enemy is your friend, eh? Which of those gun control groups suppresses research into gun injury & gun possession?
... Does doing whatever you need to do, include support of suppressing research on gun injury & gun related problems? like the gwbush admin suppressed funding for gun research, gun injury causes & affects? WHY did they do that if guns are so instrumental in lowering the violent crime rate? (a faulty reasoning, since gun ownership fell dramatically ~30% during the highest rate of decline in violent crime rates, the period from ~1993 to 2000 - it was the decline in gun ownership which played an instrumental part in the violent crime drop, not the increase in national gunstock, which went largely to existing gun owners).
Charles Blow, NY Times (whom I usually enjoy reading):rather than these tragedies being a cause for pause in ownership of guns, gun ownership has spiked in the wake of these shootings.
Gun SALES have spiked, Charles, largely amongst existing gun owners, not spiking gun ownership (except slightly perhaps in some areas, but not significant overall); gunnuts answering some 2ndA fantasy cattle call to thwart threatened gun control efforts by stocking up on ammo & new firearms, esp those termed assault rifles.
Charles, apri 2015: A striking report released Friday by the Pew Research Center revealed that for the first time, more Americans say that protecting gun rights is more important than controlling gun ownership, 52 to 46.
Charles not up to speed on this; the report was released dec 3, 2014, over 4 months ago, & it was admitted by pew that their wording was misleading in some fashion. Also, it's only one poll & needs be corroborated by another reputable source (which pew certainly is).