Gun Control & RKBA

Ezlivin

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2. My copy of the latest edition of "American Rifleman"....

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 01:37 PM

Feb 2012

...says that Barack Hussein Obama is the gravest threat to gun rights that has ever existed.

[div class='excerpt']If we fail, if Barack Obama wields the enormous power of the presidency for another four years, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (sic) could well perish in a Supreme Court heartbeat.

And...

We have time to stop the Obama juggernaut, and to make history together, but we just start now—not only to save our guns but to save our heritage and our values. The future of freedom in America depends on it.

And...

Gun-hating politicians are willing to ignore the law, the Supreme Court and due process to harass those of us who believe in the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

I'm a life member of the NRA (joined in a previous life) and they've been steady as rain on this issue. For the past three years every issue has warned its readers that their rights were on the verge of being taken away. Fear, fear, fear and more fear. Yet just the opposite is true.

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Barack Obama, "Greatest Gun Salesman in America" [View all] burf Feb 2012 OP

Republicans and right wingers have been successful in scaring the crap out of Americans... rfranklin Feb 2012 #1

My copy of the latest edition of "American Rifleman".... Ezlivin Feb 2012 #2

it's just copy n paste BS from the clinton era.. frylock Feb 2012 #12

It's even older than that gejohnston Feb 2012 #20

And they passed the 94 AWB during his presidency rl6214 Feb 2012 #22

do you have guns at home now? frylock Feb 2012 #24

They just keep banging the drum... BiggJawn Feb 2012 #13

"The SCROTUS is going to overturn the 2nd Amendment? The same SCROTUS that gave us "Citizen's United rl6214 Feb 2012 #23

They would be violating stare decisis to do so. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #120

I read a friends from time to time and laugh at how then NRA scares GOP voters into donating money. Logical Feb 2012 #19

Obama was right about safeinOhio Feb 2012 #3

+1 ellisonz Feb 2012 #7

guns OR bibles, I believe is the quote . . . Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #10

I cut my bible out and put my LCP inside of it. ileus Feb 2012 #26

"their"? Aren't you a gun owner? aikoaiko Feb 2012 #28

Yep, and your point is? safeinOhio Feb 2012 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Feb 2012 #30

You assume wrong. I don't own a bible. aikoaiko Feb 2012 #32

Just like you owning a gun safeinOhio Feb 2012 #33

But you said Obama was right. Are you saying he is nuts and right? aikoaiko Feb 2012 #34

Nope, that is not what I said. safeinOhio Feb 2012 #87

Are now saying that working class voters in your neck of the woods are extremists? aikoaiko Feb 2012 #118

Oh we never denied it. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #113

Could the economy not the president have more to do with the increase in hunting licenses? Glassunion Feb 2012 #4

don't go getting logical with this group....pay no attention to the economy behind the curtain Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #9

ruger success = LCP, LC9, SR series and now the 1911 ileus Feb 2012 #5

The death of Bill Ruger did wonders for that company. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #114

The "we're gonna take our country back . . . .from the Black guy" bunch flooded gun stores in 11/08. Hoyt Feb 2012 #6

Bank robbery, 3 gas station hold-ups, and a murder-suicide... BiggJawn Feb 2012 #14

I'll bet someone's dang gun was used in all that. Hoyt Feb 2012 #15

The bank robber isn't feeling so hot tonight. BiggJawn Feb 2012 #17

Maybe they will get someone to send them flowers. n/t burf Feb 2012 #18

guns kill and rob people don't you know... ileus Feb 2012 #16

Where does that put Brownie? gejohnston Feb 2012 #8

He was contributing by the "heck of a job he was doing"! burf Feb 2012 #11

Once people get into the hobby, it grows, like any hobby. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #21

Gun ownership is hobby? ellisonz Feb 2012 #25

SD, plinking, competition, hunting, collecting....so many types, all protected by the 2A ileus Feb 2012 #27

Those two are not mutually exclusive. I collect firearms as a hobby. slackmaster Feb 2012 #31

Writing can be a hobby, can it not? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #35

A pen as an object... ellisonz Feb 2012 #36

Quite true, and utterly irrelevant. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #37

Writing can also be very serious. ellisonz Feb 2012 #38

I don't understand the hand-wringinging. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #40

I recently brought up the subject of the Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun in another thread. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #43

Rather than argue with you about the deleterious effects of your misinterpretation... ellisonz Feb 2012 #45

"State" is also singular. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #50

The Milita was intended to secure the United States of America... ellisonz Feb 2012 #51

Then why didn't they have one single national militia? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #54

Or, there is some research on the matter burf Feb 2012 #56

Ahh... ellisonz Feb 2012 #69

If that's all you got. burf Feb 2012 #86

You are leaving out the third purpose of the Militia. PavePusher Feb 2012 #81

Which is? ellisonz Feb 2012 #85

Then why not have a single national milita? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #91

They imaginged... ellisonz Feb 2012 #95

But why didn't they just start with a unified force to begin with? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #98

The demand was that they would come to the aid of all. ellisonz Feb 2012 #104

So why not have a single national militia that could come to the aid of all? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #123

Bearing arms can also be very serious, can it not? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #41

Your questions are pointless simplifications... ellisonz Feb 2012 #44

Translation: Your questions are inconvenient to answer because they would undermine my argument. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #46

Equating a pen with a pistol is ridiculous. ellisonz Feb 2012 #47

Well, at least you answered one question. Progress! Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #48

Guns are not tools. ellisonz Feb 2012 #49

Nice screed. Straw Man Feb 2012 #52

Not really. ellisonz Feb 2012 #59

Hunting IS a recreational activity. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #65

Talk about thin ice ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #71

"Virtually every athletic contest has its origins in those two occupations." Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #73

"Virtually every athletic contest has its origins in those two occupations." ellisonz Feb 2012 #78

Thank you for proving my point. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #88

Not really. ellisonz Feb 2012 #94

No, again you are completely incorrect. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #97

Damn right I'm prejudiced... ellisonz Feb 2012 #102

darts = the means of war? Straw Man Feb 2012 #106

Don't hate me because... ellisonz Feb 2012 #107

I don't hate you ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #109

Shake off that mid-life crisis! ellisonz Feb 2012 #111

Donnez-moi un break. Straw Man Feb 2012 #112

Oh, well as long as it's for the cause of peace. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #121

Are you also against archery? N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #125

Once again, you miss the point. By a mile. Straw Man Feb 2012 #92

"There is no way that a firearm can transubstantiate from being a weapon into being a tool" Callisto32 Feb 2012 #117

Good point. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #61

That may well have been the silliest post I've seen in months. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #53

Guns are safety devices meant to save lives. ileus Feb 2012 #55

Guns are weapons, and weapons ARE tools. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #60

Are you also equally against archery, or fencing? Or javelin throwing? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #62

Yes, in that I don't believe they constitute hobby. ellisonz Feb 2012 #64

Well, you are just wrong. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #70

Really? ellisonz Feb 2012 #74

I just don't know any other way to try and explain it to you. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #79

I can assure you... ellisonz Feb 2012 #82

Then perhaps you are projecting your own violent tendencies on others. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #90

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #96

Message deleted by the DU Administrators Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #100

No one is equating a pistol with a pen. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #58

Actually, when you say that all rights are the same... ellisonz Feb 2012 #67

You are jumping the shark. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #76

"that guns are not just "tools of violence" ellisonz Feb 2012 #105

Take it up with the Olympics then. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #124

One cartoon deseves another Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #57

That is not a cartoon... ellisonz Feb 2012 #63

Neither was the artwork you posted. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #66

That's still not by definition a cartoon. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #68

By what metric? Lack of humor? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #72

Thank you for acknowledging the nature of what you posted. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #75

Now if you'll just acknowledge that people have used weapons for recreation for all time. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #80

In the context of training for hunting or violence... ellisonz Feb 2012 #88

So Olympic competitors are training for hunting or violence? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #93

So javelin throwers are training for ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #99

Actually, J.R. was completely incorrect.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #77

How many people died from pen wounds in the US last year? ellisonz Feb 2012 #83

That is beside the point. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #101

Answer the question. ellisonz Feb 2012 #103

Please stop: you're embarassing yourself. Straw Man Feb 2012 #108

Whatever you say man of Sparta! ellisonz Feb 2012 #110

Again, NO ONE IS SAYING PENS ARE WEAPONS. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #122

Nor does a firearm. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #116

Gun ownership IS a sacred civil right to be taken with seriousness. It can also be a hobby. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #39

Exactly. You can use a computer to publish (as someone brought up) dirty limericks. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #42

Says the reknowned cartoon poster. Sheesh. n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #84

Marksmanship is a hobby. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #115

A Black Democrat In The White House, And Gun Sales Go Up? Paladin Feb 2012 #119