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In reply to the discussion: Florida girl, 7, dies after accidentally shot by her father [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)18. not true
actually gun accidents are rare.
Guns are by their very definition deadly weapons. And yet, people and even children are shot every day, whether intentional or an accident. Every other industrial nation in the world has had a response to tragedies with much stricter gun control, EXCEPT the US. By every measure, the US is exponentially higher in gun deaths and now we top most first world nations combined for police shootings, the reasoning for which is our heavily armed society.
Mexico and Brazil are industrialized countries. Their gun laws are strict, and their murder rates are astronomical.
If you are talking about Europe and the UK, their murder rates were the same before any gun laws were passed. They instituted these laws in the early 20th century were because of the "red scare", not crime control. None of them saw a drop in murder or suicide rates.
Their gun laws vary with the country. Many of them have more liberal laws than you give them credit for. The UK is an outlyer in Europe just like New Jersey and DC are in the US.
It's as plain as day to anyone by all logic. It is borne out by history and every fact in the world that a country awash with guns is far less safe than one with strict gun control. It's just a fact, like the earth orbiting around the sun. Any argument to the contrary is just plain false and without any basis in fact.
According to the National Academy of Sciences study in 2004 and a Library of Congress study of each countries gun laws, there is no such correlation. BTW, you are not using logic. In fact, it is based on at least one logical fallacy.Edit history
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It's called manslaughter, the problem is the DA's rarely choose to charge the person with the gun
Lurks Often
May 2015
#8
And by the way, your smilies are on the thread about the death of a 7 year-old girl
BrotherIvan
May 2015
#22
It's going to happen again and again. There's nothing we can do about it. Humans make errors.
BlueJazz
May 2015
#35
"Control your own weapons, or we will do it for you" Kindly define 'we' for us, if you would
friendly_iconoclast
May 2015
#37
It's never Ok to hurt anybody in any way. Part of my feeling on the subject is rather selfish.
BlueJazz
May 2015
#55
This is so sad. Fortunately, these kinds of "accidental" shootings are getting rare...
Eleanors38
May 2015
#11
No, that is the whole nation. I find it peculiar anyone would argue more deaths
Eleanors38
May 2015
#39
"[You] don't give a flying fuck why those deaths might be fewer." Re-read Your statement and tell
Eleanors38
May 2015
#64
*That* statement needs to be immortalized on the 'Stuff Gun Control Advocates Say' page:
friendly_iconoclast
May 2015
#67
"I don't give a flying fuck why those deaths might be fewer." Why not?
friendly_iconoclast
May 2015
#66
So how well have those appeals to ridicule been working for ammophobes lately?
friendly_iconoclast
May 2015
#36
If fewer people had guns, fewer people would be accidnetally killed by guns.
cyberswede
May 2015
#43
Lets give you some perspective..Lets deal in facts, instead of emotions.
virginia mountainman
May 2015
#73