Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Barack Obama, "Greatest Gun Salesman in America" [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)97. No, again you are completely incorrect.
You're really that fascinated by putting a bullet through some paper? You don't understand the implications of refining this skill? Just admit it - guns can be used to kill people and animals and you like them for that reason. That is the reason they appeal to you. Being proficient with firearms makes you feel powerful in that you are able to exercise a destructive capacity. This is a different proposition than liking a hammer because you can build a table. It is is the difference between a warrior and a carpenter.
No, again, you are completely incorrect and completely misjudging my motives, and, obviously, the motives of all gun owners.
There is a word for this behavior: prejudice.
I really am that "fascinated" by putting a bullet through some paper. It's difficult and requires excellent coordination and self-discipline. It is exactly the same thrill as shooting darts (I have also shot darts competitively).
I don't enjoy firearms because they can be used to kill people and animals. I hardly ever hunt and have not been hunting in several years and the only reason I went then was to spend time with my father. Hunting is too much work for the reward - I'd rather go to Kroger and pick up a steak. And I've never killed any people with guns or otherwise.
But I've done a ton of target shooting, including competition shooting.
Again I ask you: Do you think that all Olympic competitors in archery, shooting, shot put, and javelin enjoy their sport because of feeling powerful by wielding a weapon?
So sometimes you vote against Democrats when they disagree with you on a single issue such as guns?
Yes.
Please, don't vote against Obama even though, yeah, he would pass gun control if possible
And the fact that I feel it is impossible is why I feel comfortable voting for him. If I thought he had a shot at touching the second amendment I would have to reconsider voting for him. I was reasonably certain that he would not move against the second amendment in his first term and it looks like I was correct.
No, again, you are completely incorrect and completely misjudging my motives, and, obviously, the motives of all gun owners.
There is a word for this behavior: prejudice.
I really am that "fascinated" by putting a bullet through some paper. It's difficult and requires excellent coordination and self-discipline. It is exactly the same thrill as shooting darts (I have also shot darts competitively).
I don't enjoy firearms because they can be used to kill people and animals. I hardly ever hunt and have not been hunting in several years and the only reason I went then was to spend time with my father. Hunting is too much work for the reward - I'd rather go to Kroger and pick up a steak. And I've never killed any people with guns or otherwise.
But I've done a ton of target shooting, including competition shooting.
Again I ask you: Do you think that all Olympic competitors in archery, shooting, shot put, and javelin enjoy their sport because of feeling powerful by wielding a weapon?
So sometimes you vote against Democrats when they disagree with you on a single issue such as guns?
Yes.
Please, don't vote against Obama even though, yeah, he would pass gun control if possible
And the fact that I feel it is impossible is why I feel comfortable voting for him. If I thought he had a shot at touching the second amendment I would have to reconsider voting for him. I was reasonably certain that he would not move against the second amendment in his first term and it looks like I was correct.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
125 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Republicans and right wingers have been successful in scaring the crap out of Americans...
rfranklin
Feb 2012
#1
"The SCROTUS is going to overturn the 2nd Amendment? The same SCROTUS that gave us "Citizen's United
rl6214
Feb 2012
#23
I read a friends from time to time and laugh at how then NRA scares GOP voters into donating money.
Logical
Feb 2012
#19
Are now saying that working class voters in your neck of the woods are extremists?
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#118
Could the economy not the president have more to do with the increase in hunting licenses?
Glassunion
Feb 2012
#4
don't go getting logical with this group....pay no attention to the economy behind the curtain
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2012
#9
The "we're gonna take our country back . . . .from the Black guy" bunch flooded gun stores in 11/08.
Hoyt
Feb 2012
#6
SD, plinking, competition, hunting, collecting....so many types, all protected by the 2A
ileus
Feb 2012
#27
I recently brought up the subject of the Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun in another thread.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#43
Rather than argue with you about the deleterious effects of your misinterpretation...
ellisonz
Feb 2012
#45
So why not have a single national militia that could come to the aid of all?
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#123
Translation: Your questions are inconvenient to answer because they would undermine my argument.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#46
"Virtually every athletic contest has its origins in those two occupations."
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#73
"There is no way that a firearm can transubstantiate from being a weapon into being a tool"
Callisto32
Feb 2012
#117
Are you also equally against archery, or fencing? Or javelin throwing?
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#62
Then perhaps you are projecting your own violent tendencies on others.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#90
Now if you'll just acknowledge that people have used weapons for recreation for all time.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#80
Gun ownership IS a sacred civil right to be taken with seriousness. It can also be a hobby.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#39
Exactly. You can use a computer to publish (as someone brought up) dirty limericks.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#42