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In reply to the discussion: Barack Obama, "Greatest Gun Salesman in America" [View all]ellisonz
(27,776 posts)103. Answer the question.
"Again, no one is trying to equate pens with guns, other than to point out that both can be used for serious and leisure activities." = Contradiction - the primary use of pen is to write, the primary use of a gun is to kill. The claim that both are tools is thus salacious and false in application. Moreover, the claim that guns are items of leisure is also false and a manipulation of the term leisure. Those that find leisure in guns are engaged in a level of fetishization that is quite astonishing and peculiarly different in its usage from a simple pen.
There is a physical relation between physical things. But it is different with commodities. .... There it is a definite social relation between men, that assumes ... the fantastic form of a relation between things. In [the religious] world the productions of the human brain appear as independent beings endowed with life, and entering into relation both with one another and the human race. So it is in the world of commodities with the products of mens hands. This I call the Fetishism which attaches itself to the products of labour, so soon as they are produced as commodities, and which is therefore inseparable from the production of commodities. This Fetishism of commodities has its origin ... in the peculiar social character of the labour that produces them." - Karl Marx, Capital Vol. 1, chapter 1 section 4
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Republicans and right wingers have been successful in scaring the crap out of Americans...
rfranklin
Feb 2012
#1
"The SCROTUS is going to overturn the 2nd Amendment? The same SCROTUS that gave us "Citizen's United
rl6214
Feb 2012
#23
I read a friends from time to time and laugh at how then NRA scares GOP voters into donating money.
Logical
Feb 2012
#19
Are now saying that working class voters in your neck of the woods are extremists?
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#118
Could the economy not the president have more to do with the increase in hunting licenses?
Glassunion
Feb 2012
#4
don't go getting logical with this group....pay no attention to the economy behind the curtain
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2012
#9
The "we're gonna take our country back . . . .from the Black guy" bunch flooded gun stores in 11/08.
Hoyt
Feb 2012
#6
SD, plinking, competition, hunting, collecting....so many types, all protected by the 2A
ileus
Feb 2012
#27
I recently brought up the subject of the Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun in another thread.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#43
Rather than argue with you about the deleterious effects of your misinterpretation...
ellisonz
Feb 2012
#45
So why not have a single national militia that could come to the aid of all?
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#123
Translation: Your questions are inconvenient to answer because they would undermine my argument.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#46
"Virtually every athletic contest has its origins in those two occupations."
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#73
"There is no way that a firearm can transubstantiate from being a weapon into being a tool"
Callisto32
Feb 2012
#117
Are you also equally against archery, or fencing? Or javelin throwing?
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#62
Then perhaps you are projecting your own violent tendencies on others.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#90
Now if you'll just acknowledge that people have used weapons for recreation for all time.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#80
Gun ownership IS a sacred civil right to be taken with seriousness. It can also be a hobby.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#39
Exactly. You can use a computer to publish (as someone brought up) dirty limericks.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#42