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jimmy the one

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15. murder she wrote
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jul 2015

the duplicitous band leader: Alaska .. had a grand total of 19 gun murders in 2013... compare that to Maryland where you will find some of the toughest gun control laws in the country and where 299 gun homicides occurred in 2013 despite those tough laws. California, also known for its tough gun laws, had 1,312 gun homicides in 2013.

.. for a fair comparison aren't you forgetting to put those stats per capita? Alaska has only ~700,000 peeps, while Maryland 6 million, California 39 million (~2014); That Alaska's largest city anchorage 300,000 population would fit in Baltimore's small corner?
Deceptive Band Leader cherry picks two guncontrol states & thinks he's proven something. Using 2010 stats, Maryland is ranked 33rd amongst states with highest gun death rates, Md being the highest ranking guncontrol state. I count at least 28 PRO GUN states with higher gundeath rates than Maryland (other 4 lean gun or neutralish imo).

States with the Five Highest Gun Death Rates ALL PRO GUN STATES
(Rank ..Household Gun Ownership .. Gun Death Rate Per 100,000)
1 Louisiana 45.6 percent 18.91
2 Mississippi 54.3 percent 17.80
3 Alaska 60.6 percent 17.41
4 Wyoming 62.8 percent 16.92
5 Montana 61.4 percent 16.74


States with the Five Lowest Gun Death Rates ALL GUNCONTROL STATES
(Rank .. Household Gun Ownership .. Gun Death Rate Per 100,000)
50 Rhode Island 13.3 percent 3.14
49 Hawaii 9.7 percent 3.56
48 Massachusetts 12.8 percent 3.84
47 New York 18.1 percent 5.11
46 New Jersey 11.3 percent 5.46


highest gundeath states & rates: 1 Louisiana 18.91 2 Mississippi 17.80 3 Alaska 17.41 4 Wyoming 16.92 5 Montana 16.74 6 Oklahoma 16.60 7 Alabama 16.34 8 Arkansas 15.72 9 South Carolina 15.09 10 West Virginia 14.99 11 Arizona 14.91 12 Tennessee 14.81 13 New Mexico 14.72 14 Missouri 14.21 15 Kentucky 14.13 16 Nevada 13.82 17 Georgia 12.56 18 Florida 12.46 19 Vermont 12.45 20 Idaho 12.12 21 North Carolina 11.96 22 Michigan 11.70 23 Kansas 11.46 24 Pennsylvania 11.28 25 Colorado 11.20 26 Utah 10.94 27 Oregon 10.86 28 Virginia 10.71 29 Ohio 10.63 30 Maine 10.24 31 Texas 10.14 32 Indiana 33 Maryland http://www.vpc.org/fadeathchart14.htm

band leader: The people committing these murders are not going to be affected by gun control laws one bit nor are the people they're murdering.

After viewing states gundeath statistics in full, rather than just the index of Alaska Md & calif, do you realize now how wrong your remark is? even gun guru gary kleck contends gun control will have a marginal positive affect on gun violence (~30% reduction iirc), & background checks & wait periods have been shown effective at reducing gun violence, so I must assume you don't really know what you're talking about, band leader.

band leader: This research is utterly worthless and serves as an example of why federal tax payer dollars may not be used to fund this kind of propaganda.

The research demonstrates efficacy of gun control & exposes 2nd amendment mythology, so of course, to you, it's 'utterly worthless'. But to most all other democrats, it's more plausible & the better approach, than yours.

Maryland did rank higher in murder rates, 2013, assume approx. 65% done by gun:
NATIONWIDE MURDER RATES 2013: Louisiana 10.8 Alabama 7.2 Mississippi 6.5 Maryland 6.4
Michigan 6.4 South Carolina 6.2 Missouri 6.1 New Mexico 6.0 Nevada 5.8
Georgia 5.6 Illinois 5.5 Arizona 5.4 Arkansas 5.4 Indiana 5.4 Oklahoma 5.1 Florida 5.0 Tennessee 5.0 North Carolina 4.8Pennsylvania 4.7 Alaska 4.6 California 4.6
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord

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Turns out guns do kill people [View all] libodem Jul 2015 OP
Yep Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #1
I'm more about the meanful compilation libodem Jul 2015 #3
I see your point Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #5
The DoJ through the NIJ has been doing that gejohnston Jul 2015 #9
If you remove suicides from the list, the chart looks vastly different. Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #2
Can you please share your thoughts Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #4
I see your responce to Fred Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #6
We're about to head to the range. ileus Jul 2015 #7
The problem is none of these are meaningful statistics gejohnston Jul 2015 #8
one sided claims from the J man jimmy the one Jul 2015 #18
2 pages of substance free horse shit gejohnston Jul 2015 #19
hiding in plain sight jimmy the one Jul 2015 #23
cat farts gejohnston Jul 2015 #24
correlation does not imply causation. the band leader Jul 2015 #10
murder she wrote jimmy the one Jul 2015 #15
43 total homicides in Alaska versus 234 homicides in Baltimore, Maryland. the band leader Jul 2015 #20
apples to oranges jimmy the one Jul 2015 #22
one group of people compared to another group of people the band leader Jul 2015 #25
apples to apples jimmy the one Jul 2015 #27
better sit down, BL jimmy the one Jul 2015 #28
harvard conservatives jimmy the one Jul 2015 #29
Anchorage & Alaska do not have the racial problems larger cities in conus do. the band leader Jul 2015 #26
an inconvenient truth, for band leader jimmy the one Jul 2015 #16
your circumlocutious nonsense does not advance your argument. the band leader Jul 2015 #21
340 million guns. 32,000 gun-related deaths per year, 100,000+ major injuries. Irrefutable. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #11
Improved mental healthcare would go a long way. Could we discuss that? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #12
And the fact that correlation *does not* equal causation is also irrefutable. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #13
Blah, blah, blah. Turns out guns actually save people as well. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #14
Guns are designed to save/protect...some can't accept that fact. ileus Jul 2015 #17
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