Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Turns out guns do kill people [View all]jimmy the one
(2,846 posts)the duplicitous band leader: Alaska .. had a grand total of 19 gun murders in 2013... compare that to Maryland where you will find some of the toughest gun control laws in the country and where 299 gun homicides occurred in 2013 despite those tough laws. California, also known for its tough gun laws, had 1,312 gun homicides in 2013.
.. for a fair comparison aren't you forgetting to put those stats per capita? Alaska has only ~700,000 peeps, while Maryland 6 million, California 39 million (~2014); That Alaska's largest city anchorage 300,000 population would fit in Baltimore's small corner?
Deceptive Band Leader cherry picks two guncontrol states & thinks he's proven something. Using 2010 stats, Maryland is ranked 33rd amongst states with highest gun death rates, Md being the highest ranking guncontrol state. I count at least 28 PRO GUN states with higher gundeath rates than Maryland (other 4 lean gun or neutralish imo).
States with the Five Highest Gun Death Rates ALL PRO GUN STATES
(Rank ..Household Gun Ownership .. Gun Death Rate Per 100,000)
1 Louisiana 45.6 percent 18.91
2 Mississippi 54.3 percent 17.80
3 Alaska 60.6 percent 17.41
4 Wyoming 62.8 percent 16.92
5 Montana 61.4 percent 16.74
States with the Five Lowest Gun Death Rates ALL GUNCONTROL STATES
(Rank .. Household Gun Ownership .. Gun Death Rate Per 100,000)
50 Rhode Island 13.3 percent 3.14
49 Hawaii 9.7 percent 3.56
48 Massachusetts 12.8 percent 3.84
47 New York 18.1 percent 5.11
46 New Jersey 11.3 percent 5.46
highest gundeath states & rates: 1 Louisiana 18.91 2 Mississippi 17.80 3 Alaska 17.41 4 Wyoming 16.92 5 Montana 16.74 6 Oklahoma 16.60 7 Alabama 16.34 8 Arkansas 15.72 9 South Carolina 15.09 10 West Virginia 14.99 11 Arizona 14.91 12 Tennessee 14.81 13 New Mexico 14.72 14 Missouri 14.21 15 Kentucky 14.13 16 Nevada 13.82 17 Georgia 12.56 18 Florida 12.46 19 Vermont 12.45 20 Idaho 12.12 21 North Carolina 11.96 22 Michigan 11.70 23 Kansas 11.46 24 Pennsylvania 11.28 25 Colorado 11.20 26 Utah 10.94 27 Oregon 10.86 28 Virginia 10.71 29 Ohio 10.63 30 Maine 10.24 31 Texas 10.14 32 Indiana 33 Maryland http://www.vpc.org/fadeathchart14.htm
band leader: The people committing these murders are not going to be affected by gun control laws one bit nor are the people they're murdering.
After viewing states gundeath statistics in full, rather than just the index of Alaska Md & calif, do you realize now how wrong your remark is? even gun guru gary kleck contends gun control will have a marginal positive affect on gun violence (~30% reduction iirc), & background checks & wait periods have been shown effective at reducing gun violence, so I must assume you don't really know what you're talking about, band leader.
band leader: This research is utterly worthless and serves as an example of why federal tax payer dollars may not be used to fund this kind of propaganda.
The research demonstrates efficacy of gun control & exposes 2nd amendment mythology, so of course, to you, it's 'utterly worthless'. But to most all other democrats, it's more plausible & the better approach, than yours.
Maryland did rank higher in murder rates, 2013, assume approx. 65% done by gun:
NATIONWIDE MURDER RATES 2013: Louisiana 10.8 Alabama 7.2 Mississippi 6.5 Maryland 6.4
Michigan 6.4 South Carolina 6.2 Missouri 6.1 New Mexico 6.0 Nevada 5.8
Georgia 5.6 Illinois 5.5 Arizona 5.4 Arkansas 5.4 Indiana 5.4 Oklahoma 5.1 Florida 5.0 Tennessee 5.0 North Carolina 4.8Pennsylvania 4.7 Alaska 4.6 California 4.6 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord