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In reply to the discussion: Barack Obama, "Greatest Gun Salesman in America" [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)121. Oh, well as long as it's for the cause of peace.
Damn right I'm prejudiced. If I am prejudiced, it is for the cause of peace.
So it's OK to think that everyone who engages in a sport using a weapon is secretly bent on bloodlust as long as it's for the cause of peace. Got it.
Why do you vote against your own interests? Seems, oh kinda hypocritical to put a shallow view of gun rights ahead of the likelihood of the fair administration of justice. Why would you trust a Republican in this day and age to faithfully carry out his office?
Believe me, I am not happy about the situation. I used to be a single-issue voter. I used the second amendment as a litmus test for a politician. I figured if they supported the right of the people to keep and bear arms that they must understand personal liberty and the principles of our founding fathers.
Unfortunately it has become clear to me that the Republicans pander to the gun owners the same way they pander to religious people. They give people the illusion of piety and freedom while when they think no one is looking engaging in whatever debauchery suits them and passing laws that devastate our freedom and civil liberties.
So where I can, I will try to remove anti-second amendment politicians from office. But I will have to weigh the consequences. In the case of President Obama, I thought it was more important to push the country as a whole away from the conservative side of things, though truth be told many of the things I was unhappy with Bush doing Obama has continued to do.
Also, I'm just going to respond to your other post here and be done with it - to your claim that the practice of the means of war does not inculcate militarism and that I ought to go buy a set of darts, I simply must refer you to the library and to a certain book by one Erich Maria Remarque entitled All Quiet on the Western Front and simply ask what form you think humankind ought to take.
Rather than sending me off on a research project, why don't you simply tell me what form you think humankind ought to take and what this has to do with the completely non-violent sport of throwing darts?
It seems to me that you simply see violence everywhere and in everything.
So it's OK to think that everyone who engages in a sport using a weapon is secretly bent on bloodlust as long as it's for the cause of peace. Got it.
Why do you vote against your own interests? Seems, oh kinda hypocritical to put a shallow view of gun rights ahead of the likelihood of the fair administration of justice. Why would you trust a Republican in this day and age to faithfully carry out his office?
Believe me, I am not happy about the situation. I used to be a single-issue voter. I used the second amendment as a litmus test for a politician. I figured if they supported the right of the people to keep and bear arms that they must understand personal liberty and the principles of our founding fathers.
Unfortunately it has become clear to me that the Republicans pander to the gun owners the same way they pander to religious people. They give people the illusion of piety and freedom while when they think no one is looking engaging in whatever debauchery suits them and passing laws that devastate our freedom and civil liberties.
So where I can, I will try to remove anti-second amendment politicians from office. But I will have to weigh the consequences. In the case of President Obama, I thought it was more important to push the country as a whole away from the conservative side of things, though truth be told many of the things I was unhappy with Bush doing Obama has continued to do.
Also, I'm just going to respond to your other post here and be done with it - to your claim that the practice of the means of war does not inculcate militarism and that I ought to go buy a set of darts, I simply must refer you to the library and to a certain book by one Erich Maria Remarque entitled All Quiet on the Western Front and simply ask what form you think humankind ought to take.
Rather than sending me off on a research project, why don't you simply tell me what form you think humankind ought to take and what this has to do with the completely non-violent sport of throwing darts?
It seems to me that you simply see violence everywhere and in everything.
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Republicans and right wingers have been successful in scaring the crap out of Americans...
rfranklin
Feb 2012
#1
"The SCROTUS is going to overturn the 2nd Amendment? The same SCROTUS that gave us "Citizen's United
rl6214
Feb 2012
#23
I read a friends from time to time and laugh at how then NRA scares GOP voters into donating money.
Logical
Feb 2012
#19
Are now saying that working class voters in your neck of the woods are extremists?
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#118
Could the economy not the president have more to do with the increase in hunting licenses?
Glassunion
Feb 2012
#4
don't go getting logical with this group....pay no attention to the economy behind the curtain
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2012
#9
The "we're gonna take our country back . . . .from the Black guy" bunch flooded gun stores in 11/08.
Hoyt
Feb 2012
#6
SD, plinking, competition, hunting, collecting....so many types, all protected by the 2A
ileus
Feb 2012
#27
I recently brought up the subject of the Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun in another thread.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#43
Rather than argue with you about the deleterious effects of your misinterpretation...
ellisonz
Feb 2012
#45
So why not have a single national militia that could come to the aid of all?
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#123
Translation: Your questions are inconvenient to answer because they would undermine my argument.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#46
"Virtually every athletic contest has its origins in those two occupations."
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#73
"There is no way that a firearm can transubstantiate from being a weapon into being a tool"
Callisto32
Feb 2012
#117
Are you also equally against archery, or fencing? Or javelin throwing?
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#62
Then perhaps you are projecting your own violent tendencies on others.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#90
Now if you'll just acknowledge that people have used weapons for recreation for all time.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#80
Gun ownership IS a sacred civil right to be taken with seriousness. It can also be a hobby.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#39
Exactly. You can use a computer to publish (as someone brought up) dirty limericks.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#42