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In reply to the discussion: Young woman who was shot in head at Lealman church dies [View all]ellisonz
(27,776 posts)37. Police carry guns because criminals have guns.
Believe it or not, most police officers do not carry guns at all times (although they may call upon armed officers):
In the United Kingdom, the majority of police officers do not carry firearms, except in special circumstances. This originates from the formation of the Metropolitan Police Service in the 19th century, when police were not armed, partly to counter public fears and objections concerning armed enforcers as this had been previously seen due to the British Army maintaining order when needed. The arming of police in the United Kingdom is a perennial topic of debate.
Most officers are instead issued with other items for personal defence, such as Speedcuffs, Extendable "ASP" Baton, and incapacitant sprays such as PAVA or CS spray. While not a firearm, CS spray is subject to some of the same rules and regulations as a projectile firing firearm under Section 5 (b) of the Firearms Act 1968.[1]
The Ministry of Defence Police, Civil Nuclear Constabulary and Police Service of Northern Ireland (formerly the Royal Ulster Constabulary) are issued firearms as a matter of routine. Every force can also call upon the Force Firearms Units, Armed Response Vehicle, and certain specialist units of the Metropolitan Police are routinely armed.
In the year 2007-08, there were 6,780 Authorised Firearms Officers, 21,181 police operations in which firearms were authorised throughout England and Wales and 7 incidents where conventional firearms were used.[2]
Since 2004, Police forces have increasingly been deploying Tasers, for use against armed assailants, by Authorised Firearms Officers. Tasers are considered by the authorities to be a less lethal alternative to firearms, although Amnesty International links their use to 70 deaths in the US and Canada.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_use_of_firearms_in_the_United_Kingdom
And Britain hasn't fallen into total shit and disarray, and I would note they of course have a lower homicide rate. In fact, roughly one-quarter of our homicide rate despite having significant poverty rates! Shocking, to think that some law enforcement officers believe they can save lives without guns!
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I tend to think of a pistol as a tool for fighting your way to your rifle, but w/e
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2012
#73
That poster consistently called all law-abiding gun owners out as potential criminals.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#89
I'm not familiar with current "procedures", having been here for the last 30+ years
Starboard Tack
Feb 2012
#63
Would you care to explain why Britain has a lower homicide rate despite having a gang problem? n/t
ellisonz
Feb 2012
#45
I'm honest too. If you die during the commission of a violent crime, I'm not really concerned about
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#90
May she rest in peace. My sincerest condolences to the family and friends.
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2012
#8