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In reply to the discussion: "Nobody wants to take your guns..." [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)81. Typical. When confronted on misrepresentation, you double down and do it again.
Last edited Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:33 AM - Edit history (2)
No. You did not mention that at all, you wrote: Does that sound like the actions of a group that claims not to be anti-gun?
For anyone interested, its post 64 in this very thread. Lets have a look shall we, at what I was referring to when I said that.
"Moms Demand Action Deeply Disappointed in Federal Judges Decision Overturning Chicagos Citywide Ban on Gun Dealerships"
Does that sound like the actions of a group that claims not to be anti-gun?
Does that sound like the actions of a group that claims not to be anti-gun?
And then I write:
And then theres this:
Almost a year ago, in the aftermath of the shootings in Newtown, Conn., a number of entertainment industry activists decried a vote that prevented the Senate from moving forward background check legislation. Some vowed to withhold support from Democrats who voted No, including Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), both of whom are in the midst of tough reelection races...
...In a letter sent to Cindy Horn on Wednesday afternoon, the groups urged her to cancel the fundraiser, or, in the alternative, that they instead raise funds for Senate candidates in tough races who voted for the background checks, including Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.).
The groups, including Women Against Gun Violence, the California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the Violence Prevention Coalition and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, wrote to Horn that when Senators from far-flung places come to California to fuel their campaigns, we hope that you will remind them that youre not their personal ATM. You have a right to ask why they deserve their support...
...The groups asked in their letter, Is Democrat merely a box on a ballot, to be checked at any cost?
http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/gun-control-groups-urge-cancellation-of-hollywood-fundraiser-for-mark-begich-and-mark-pryor-1201141065/
Almost a year ago, in the aftermath of the shootings in Newtown, Conn., a number of entertainment industry activists decried a vote that prevented the Senate from moving forward background check legislation. Some vowed to withhold support from Democrats who voted No, including Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), both of whom are in the midst of tough reelection races...
...In a letter sent to Cindy Horn on Wednesday afternoon, the groups urged her to cancel the fundraiser, or, in the alternative, that they instead raise funds for Senate candidates in tough races who voted for the background checks, including Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.).
The groups, including Women Against Gun Violence, the California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the Violence Prevention Coalition and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, wrote to Horn that when Senators from far-flung places come to California to fuel their campaigns, we hope that you will remind them that youre not their personal ATM. You have a right to ask why they deserve their support...
...The groups asked in their letter, Is Democrat merely a box on a ballot, to be checked at any cost?
http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/gun-control-groups-urge-cancellation-of-hollywood-fundraiser-for-mark-begich-and-mark-pryor-1201141065/
So really, the only questions at this point, are whether you have a reading comprehension failure, or if you are deliberately misrepresenting what I said, and whether you'll admit to which of the two is actually the truth. One surely is, and theres just no escaping that for you, I'm afraid.
I guess if you double down again, you'll make it clear for everyone.
But it doesn't matter, since you agreed with my overarching point that you are against background checks because they are unenforceable, when you wrote this:
They {background checks} are unenforceable without registration. Where personally owned private property is concerned, I do not support the infrastructure - registration - necessary to make it enforceable,
That YOU think background checks are unenforceable is beside the point; the point is that you oppose background checks as currently being conducted, when applying to all gun sales.
Thus you go against the majority democrat gun owner position.
They {background checks} are unenforceable without registration. Where personally owned private property is concerned, I do not support the infrastructure - registration - necessary to make it enforceable,
That YOU think background checks are unenforceable is beside the point; the point is that you oppose background checks as currently being conducted, when applying to all gun sales.
Thus you go against the majority democrat gun owner position.
Bzzzt. Wrong again. At least you're consistent.
I'm against gun registration. Period. Whether its used for background checks or not. Go ahead, make all the universal background check laws you like. I don't oppose that.
When it comes to registration, on the other hand, my stance is Fuck Off.
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I seriously doubt that gangbangers et al would be treated as an exception
Starboard Tack
Aug 2014
#16
I think it is you who misses the point. And the canard canard again. LOL!
Starboard Tack
Aug 2014
#26
"If there were no guns available, then how would the gangbangers acquire them?"
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2014
#42
it's really going to happen isn't it? we can't even get sensible gun control let alone getting rid
samsingh
Aug 2014
#2
The guns that they are fighting hardest to ban are involved in less than 300 murders/yr.
benEzra
Aug 2015
#55
"Through each war we are in, combatants have become more and more willing to shoot to kill."
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2014
#43
And a liberal criminologist destroys the "Nobody wants to take your guns" meme
pablo_marmol
Aug 2014
#41