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branford

(4,462 posts)
29. I'm not blocked in GCRA, because I respect the letter and spirit of GCRA rules,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:32 PM
Sep 2015

even if I don't necessarily agree with them. DU is a private forum, I'm a guest, and I intend to act respectfully, particularly since even with the occasional argument concerning guns or otherwise, most everyone here agrees with the totality of my liberal views far more often than not.

The forum you host is an echo chamber, although it has so little activity that it's virtually silent. I certainly have no objection to a forum dedicated to "gun control reform activism," but I've seen precious few posts explaining how to realistically actually enact gun control, reform gun laws or culture, or really much organization to achieve such goals. The "activism" usually consists of posting old cartoons and cross-posts with threads here and GD, largely complaining about us "ammosexuals" and "gun humpers" (although since I've never owned any firearms, nor have a desire to do so, I'm not quite sure how I'm defined; maybe I'm a "closet ammosexual" or just "ammo-curious?&quot .

My point has always been the importance of relatively civil discourse. You are certainly free to have any positions about guns, self-defense, crime, or anything else. Whether I agree is irrelevant. If you believe strongly in gun control and related matters, or the stories, editorials and cartoons you routinely post here, often multiple times per day, I believe it's hardly unreasonable to expect you to have the courtesy, confidence, and conviction to engage in debate with your Democratic Party peers. If you can't have a discussion with us, how do you expect to ever convince anyone else? If you are comfortable with your positions, and have the evidence to back them up, I don't see why you would hesitate for the briefest moment to truly and fully join the discussion. The water's warm, come on in...

I additionally find it interesting that you claim to know the positions concerning firearms and similar topics among all here on DU, and imply the views expressed here are outside the mainstream of our party. Let's look at the most recent Democratic Party Platform concerning firearms,

Right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation

We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans' Second Amendment right to own and use firearms.

We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious.

We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms.

We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements--like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole--so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking


Respectfully, as I read the Platform, neither you nor many gun rights proponents who regularly post here fully embrace all the Democratic Party positions, although there's a great deal of common ground for those who aren't ideologues and are willing to compromise. However, unlike you, both gun rights advocates and opponents who substantively share their views at least implicitly acknowledge that the only way any consensus can reached or systemic improvements be made is with "an honest, open national conversation about firearms."
$10k reward offered in gun theft case [View all] SecularMotion Sep 2015 OP
A lawful FFL with appropriate security for his store was apparently robbed branford Sep 2015 #1
You act like this is a normal occurrence at gun stores. SecularMotion Sep 2015 #2
Its not a normal occurrence, which is why it makes the news when it happens. Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #3
It's not a normal occurrence, nor does it have anything to do with gun control, branford Sep 2015 #4
If you find my posts so troubling, please put me on ignore. SecularMotion Sep 2015 #8
How does this fit the SOP? Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #9
If you don't want people to speculate on the reasons for your posts branford Sep 2015 #15
There are news stories and opinion pieces shared without comment in most groups on DU SecularMotion Sep 2015 #16
This forum is not LBN or even General Discussion, branford Sep 2015 #17
I don't owe you any explanations SecularMotion Sep 2015 #18
No, it's true, you don't "owe" me anything. branford Sep 2015 #22
Great post sir Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #23
How many groups have blocked you from posting? SecularMotion Sep 2015 #25
Wow, I am glad you are Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #26
Oh DashOneBravo Sep 2015 #28
IMO your views on the gun issue are too far right of myself and the majority of DU members. SecularMotion Sep 2015 #24
Oh yes, Just burns you up Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #27
I'm not blocked in GCRA, because I respect the letter and spirit of GCRA rules, branford Sep 2015 #29
That actually makes sense, if you're standing 30 miles to the left of the party platform... beevul Sep 2015 #30
Do they have the key word Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #19
See post #18 SecularMotion Sep 2015 #20
Nope Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #21
Just another post confirming... beevul Sep 2015 #5
"...didn't waste so much as a cross word about the people who drove a vehicle through a building" friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #6
You of curse meant to say life saving business. ileus Sep 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #11
It may have been that goofy "sharesunited" poster now that I think about it. ileus Sep 2015 #12
Somewhere a delicate flower sarisataka Sep 2015 #13
In a culture where abused is constantly alleged, one has to be creative... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #14
so how does this meet the SOP again? Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #7
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