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jimmy the one

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32. Unorg'd militia, obsolete JOKE
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:43 PM
Sep 2015

nuc uni: You consider an institution create by federal statute to be a "MOB"? You Controller always want to control things through the law. Yet, here is a law and you describe it as a "MOB".

False premise, the law creates a well regulated national & state guards militia, & classes all others as an unorganized force pool which is obsolete today as it is an all volunteer military force, there is no conscription.
You defend federal statutes as absolutely effective? wow, the unorganized militia is gonna get you, at least those afeared of that tyrannical govt.. Yes, the unorganized militia is generally a MOB. It doesn't meet, it has no leadership, no pay, no mobe point, no nothing. It's an unorganized MOB.
Why then miss smarty, do governors & presidents invariably refuse to call to arms the unorganized militia for civil disturbance? relying always on the national or state guards aka well regulated militias?
I'll tell you why, because they don't want an armed MOB of vigilantes showing up with guns galore and potentially causing or instigating far more problems than already exist, with little recourse if innocent or even guilty people get shot. Duh, how dumb can you get?

nuc uni: And just for the record -- USC 10 Section 311 states all able-bodied males 17-45 and all able-bodied females 17-45 who have completed basic military training are members of the unorganized militia.

And just for the record, why don't you retract this BS nonsense about military training for the unorganized militia. You posted misinformation, didn't you? woman up & acknowledge your error.

nuc uni: So the US government recognizes -- and even creates -- a militia without the sort of regulation you suggest.

The unorganized militia is a JOKE; was a bone to the masses by teddy roosevelt to placate & appease them as if they were actually a part of defending the country, give them espirit de corps, ha.

nuc uni: Self-defense is not selfish; it's a basic, essential human right and any scheme of government that interferes with that right is illegitimate.

And the right to self defense existed thousands of years prior to the 2nd amendment being written, & is a separate concept. To conflate the two concepts is often a far right wing tactic of intimation to the uninitiated, a pathetic tactic to elicit support for gun ownership.

Actually, private gun ownership is not rare gejohnston Sep 2015 #1
You make Switzerland sound just like the US. flamin lib Sep 2015 #2
It is a bigger pain in the ass than most of the states gejohnston Sep 2015 #4
Still peddling that Lott shit, right? flamin lib Sep 2015 #5
Are you back again? oneshooter Sep 2015 #6
Actually, I'm peddling Wright and Rossi. gejohnston Sep 2015 #14
Glad we live in America... ileus Sep 2015 #3
Glad you do too Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #7
Isn't it amazing when common sense comes into play. Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #8
As a non-resisident and not a citizen of the U.S., Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #42
Only you can answer that Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #43
A follow up to the OP flamin lib Sep 2015 #9
Well thanks... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #11
Didn't you swear NEVER to post on this Forum ever again? oneshooter Sep 2015 #13
I admire your ability to converse with these folks. I guess someone has to do it. randys1 Sep 2015 #26
You just have to pick and choose who to respond to. flamin lib Sep 2015 #28
I totally agree Starboard Tack Sep 2015 #44
The problem with many Democratic proponents of gun control branford Sep 2015 #49
"Gun Culture:" A patchwork of sociological & psychological terms meant to disparage... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #10
This OP is a good point of departure for good discussion... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #12
The argument that guns are causing all the violence in the US TeddyR Sep 2015 #15
That doesn't make sense. DetlefK Sep 2015 #16
You fixate on the metal and plastic, his post focuses on the people intent on committing crime. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #17
No, this is about his reasoning. DetlefK Sep 2015 #18
That's not how I read it. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #19
"The biggest difference between the US and Switzerland? How they think about guns:" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #20
Eh, the militias right now wouldn't accept joining a well-regulated militia. DetlefK Sep 2015 #21
well regulated in the amendment gejohnston Sep 2015 #22
Uhhhh...in the 18c. the government didn't control militias the way you suggest. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #23
any bonehead allowed in the UM jimmy the one Sep 2015 #24
re: the unorganized militia discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #25
Unorganized militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Sep 2015 #31
"Unorganized militia is a JOKE" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #34
woman up jimmy the one Sep 2015 #35
Okay. Females who are members of the National Guard are the only ones eligible for the Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #36
nuclear yammering jimmy the one Sep 2015 #37
"The sleeping masses" are not a federal statue James; the unorganized militia is. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #38
re: your thoughts above from #31 discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #41
(unorganized) groups of one jimmy the one Sep 2015 #47
Please, render for us... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #48
You're arguing a red herring again, james. beevul Sep 2015 #27
2ndA both a right & a limitation jimmy the one Sep 2015 #33
Negative ghost rider. beevul Sep 2015 #39
Hey, you know very well facts and historical context don't really matter DonP Sep 2015 #40
do you see the 'and' I wonder? jimmy the one Sep 2015 #45
regurgitating a half truth jimmy the one Sep 2015 #46
Says the guy with one eye closed. beevul Sep 2015 #50
"Stop embellishing requirements to join the unorganized MOB" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #30
Unorg'd militia, obsolete JOKE jimmy the one Sep 2015 #32
Concept of being a citizen HassleCat Sep 2015 #29
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