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Kang Colby

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16. I am against UBCs without real compromise.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:03 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Wed Oct 14, 2015, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)

I posted this earlier today, but I will reshare with a slight addition. UBCs are our golden bargaining chip, and it would be foolish to give it away without making real progress with respect to the right to keep and bear arms. Keep in mind, we were able to pass the PLCAA, so all of the items below are politically feasible in exchange for UBCs.

That's why I think it makes sense to fight UBCs tooth and nail for the next few years. If the decision is ever made to go along with UBCs it will truly be a compromise and we needn't give away the bargaining chip without something in return.

A) Repeal of the Hughes amendment
B) Authorize handgun purchases from FFLs across state lines
C) National Concealed Carry reciprocity with a federal option, background check based on NICS
D) Strengthening FOPA, enhanced legal protections for firearm owners
E) Grant funding for high school state athletic associations for shooting sports
F) Repeal of 4473 record keeping requirements.
G) Public audit of NICS program
H) Establishment of an FFL program for individuals to purchase firearms directly. It would be like an FFL 03, but could be used for non-C&R.
I) Legal protection from the ATF for NFA trusts. (The ATF has been threatening to phase these out for years, we need to stop that effort.)
J) Repeal of ammo restrictions in LEOPA
K) Repeal of 922r and all import restrictions on civilian firearms and components
L) Additional funding for the CMP
M) CMP handgun sales
N) Grant program for true firearm safety organizations and efforts
O) Reduce NICS checks maximum processing time to 24 hours
P) Funding to "fix NICS", as supported by groups such as the NSSF.
Q) Removal of SBRs/SBSs/handguns with vertical grips and suppressors from NFA requirements
R) Restrict the Department of State from blocking the free exchange of cad files or similar design tools for CNC machines and 3D printers associated with civilian small arms.

If we can get those line items addressed, I would be supportive of UBCs, with exemptions for relatives.

Universal Background Checks for firearms [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 OP
No. Better to repeal the 2nd Amendment. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #1
As usual... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #2
Giving Gun Worshipers another Amendment to further Sanctify their Religion is not an step forward. stone space Oct 2015 #3
Neither is your course toward cultural purity. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #4
Wow! GGJohn Oct 2015 #13
He does good Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #20
"Religion?" I don't think you'd like my holy water. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #29
I'm an atheist. I don't want your religion forced on me. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #36
Oh, no force necessary. At my age, it flows freely! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #37
I'm not a gun worshiper. (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #38
Cool, either am I Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #41
Cool, GGJohn Oct 2015 #45
You spend a lot time trying to force your views on the rest of us Lurks Often Oct 2015 #40
Almost like Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #42
By all means, get off the couch and get started DonP Oct 2015 #5
It's the OP asking for a new Amendment. Suggest you take it up with him. stone space Oct 2015 #7
So, as usual, sit on your hands instead of standing up for what you believe in DonP Oct 2015 #8
He sure likes that public funding Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #21
The word you're searching for: "Indolent." nt Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #30
Indolent, lazy, cheap, ineffectual, they all work. n/t DonP Oct 2015 #43
You're the one who want's to repeal the 2A, GGJohn Oct 2015 #14
What fantasy land do you live where that is remotely possible? Lurks Often Oct 2015 #10
He says he lives in the real world Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #22
Just because he says it, certainly doesn't make it true. Lurks Often Oct 2015 #24
Where the unicorn farts rainbows over Michgan Avenue! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #31
Well then, you should get right on it. GGJohn Oct 2015 #12
Yes add Oklahoma Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #23
Finally. One of those 'second amendment extremists' I've heard so much about... beevul Oct 2015 #25
Bugs you, huh? (nt) stone space Oct 2015 #34
Not in the least, GGJohn Oct 2015 #46
All I can give you is a big MAYBE. beemer27 Oct 2015 #6
You're welcome and thanks for the thoughtful reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #9
No, because I don't think that structure would do any good petronius Oct 2015 #11
The criteria would be being found guilty of crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #15
I am against UBCs without real compromise. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #16
Sounds great but one question discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #17
"E" is just too inflamatory for gun control people. It makes them crazy. DonP Oct 2015 #19
Its because 'E' has three barrels... beevul Oct 2015 #26
Sounds like my experience with describing Chicago gun laws as Jim (large, raucous black bird). Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #32
Edited. See Don P's post for an explanation. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #47
good work n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #50
Concur with petronius and kang colby, edgineered Oct 2015 #18
This is a reasonable proposal for this gun owner...Controllers? Not so much. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #27
Why? They make progress on gun control, specifically background checks Kang Colby Oct 2015 #48
I am skeptical because much of the rhetoric here and elsewhere is characterized... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #49
Hmmm... deathrind Oct 2015 #28
"...believe drugs should be illegal?" From The Anti-Ammosexual Handbook of Reality? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #33
you do need a license to sell firearms gejohnston Oct 2015 #35
Thats the problem with unrealistic thinking... beevul Oct 2015 #39
Before you double down on your "believe drugs should be illegal" statement... beardown Oct 2015 #44
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