Gun Control & RKBA

Lizzie Poppet

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19. I don't disagree, actually.

Tue Oct 20, 2015, 04:59 PM

Oct 2015

If one's sole reason for having a firearm (that is, one doesn't really care for shooting as a hobby, doesn't hunt, etc.) is as an anti-crime measure, then I agree: that's not a rationale that's supported by probability for anyone not in an extraordinary circumstance.

In my case, I'm a competition rifle shooter (long range target stuff) and lifelong recreational shooter, so I have the gun security infrastructure in place: gun safe, etc. Adding a couple of self-defense handguns isn't much of an addition...and as a single female who lives alone, my probability of being a victim of crime is a fair bit higher than average. Even then, I'd probably not elect to have a firearm if I weren't already a shooter.

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I keep hearing "well-regulated militia" as a precondition to gun ownership. [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 OP

Search engines are available to all Doubledee Oct 2015 #1

And for clarity's sake, 2A recognized an individual right to keep and bear arms. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #15

the devil in the details Doubledee Oct 2015 #22

I am not confused. That was the language of the day. What is clear: Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #27

Lets agree Doubledee Oct 2015 #28

That's fine. That kind of language re: 2A is found in some state constitutions, Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #30

That they should be able to load and fire guns. immoderate Oct 2015 #2

Perhaps we should enlist members of this militia to fight ISIS. LonePirate Oct 2015 #3

Any comments concerning the OP? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #6

Make militia membership mandatory for gun ownership then send militia members overseas to fight ISIS LonePirate Oct 2015 #9

Good, you keep saying that and let us know when anything changes DonP Oct 2015 #10

The more that gundamentalists hate an idea, the more it needs to be inplemented. LonePirate Oct 2015 #12

Gee, Pirate, are you "terrorized?" Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #13

Only people who suck at math are "terrorized." Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #16

The same could be said for gundamentalists who own based on fears of crimes that will never happen. LonePirate Oct 2015 #17

Let's see, gun crime and murders are about half what they were in 1994 DonP Oct 2015 #18

chest puffing about the GOP congress jimmy the one Oct 2015 #24

I don't disagree, actually. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #19

pb bullets for sale, cheap jimmy the one Oct 2015 #25

I'll have to check. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #26

BTDT /nt sarisataka Oct 2015 #11

Actually, if the militia were called up for that, you would be on the list. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #14

Constitutional rights were earned from 1775 to 1783. beardown Oct 2015 #20

The militia is for securing a free state. Expeditionary campaigns are for the military. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #23

That has nothing to do with the OP. What, if any, regulations were placed on the militia when the Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #29

So your position is to put boots on the ground in the Middle East. n/t krispos42 Oct 2015 #21

Its a popular but incorrect notion, among some folks. beevul Oct 2015 #4

That phrase actually jeepers Oct 2015 #5

I think it's more of a rationale than it is a precondition. [nt] Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #8

A little tricky due to the timing, but not hard to figure out... jmg257 Oct 2015 #31