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Clames

(2,038 posts)
108. Too easy...
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
Feb 2012

Benchrest Rifle
Bullseye pistol
Cowboy long-range precision rifle
ISSF 50m Pistol

...to name just a few. None of those have anything to do with combat or hunting, just the extreme limit of precison, accuracy, or both.




Like shoot fish in a barrel when the other side isn't well educated on the subject matter...

Yeah I read this a few days ago.... ileus Feb 2012 #1
FYI Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #2
So confusing! ellisonz Feb 2012 #3
Which one would you grab in an effort to preserve your life, petronius Feb 2012 #4
Not possessing either, I would grab neither. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #10
Just as an FYI, flare guns are *terrible* self defense weapons. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #14
"I would point my finger or my flare gun at him" rl6214 Feb 2012 #17
I might also yell loudly " Avast, ye pirate scum!" Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #20
Now that might just work. rl6214 Feb 2012 #67
So, you're going to cosplay a pirate, yelling at other pirates? AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #77
your flare gun, but not your first aid kit? Why not? petronius Feb 2012 #23
Improperly used they can both kill you DonP Feb 2012 #5
That's the nature of tools. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #6
it is a device used by writers all the time, Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #7
Tools do not have a personal nature, they have a designed purpose. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #22
that is a good liberal and progessive value Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #25
Properly used, one saves a life, the other takes a life. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #11
It can be entirely proper to take a life, to save one. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #56
How do you take a life without firing the gun? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #61
I tend to think of a pistol as a tool for fighting your way to your rifle, but w/e AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #73
Improperly used, anything can kill you. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #15
Sorry, but it is never "proper" to kill someone. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #18
I disagree. It is often proper to kill someone. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #29
Well, you may disagree, but you're still wrong. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #58
No, you are wrong. It is ALWAYS appropriate to defend oneself. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #71
Your sig is a callout of another DU member Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #86
That poster consistently called all law-abiding gun owners out as potential criminals. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #89
The link is not to his blog, but to screenshot on a wingnut website. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #93
There, I fixed it for you. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #94
Don't conflate the death penalty with self defense. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #75
I don't conflate the death penalty with SD Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #91
"Not a liberal mindset" krispos42 Feb 2012 #79
Regarding mindset, liberal or conservative. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #95
The only one calling for euthanasia is you... krispos42 Feb 2012 #109
Who's talking demographics? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #117
We both know that people born in certain circumstances... krispos42 Feb 2012 #120
So, we agree on just about everything. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #123
It's not about being thorough krispos42 Feb 2012 #124
Sorry, I don't buy all that. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #126
Except that it's not just about concealed carry in public. krispos42 Mar 2012 #129
OK, one at a time Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #130
Unfounded, unsupported, and untrue absolute. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #57
To shoot someone may be "your" only option. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #59
That pharmacist committed murder. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #74
It's not an "argument", it's a simple fact DonP Feb 2012 #24
Anything used as a weapon will kill when properly used as a weapon. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #30
my p89 is a life saving device... ileus Feb 2012 #9
No, it's a life taking device. Nothing safe about it. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #12
From the grip end it's made to save lives. ileus Feb 2012 #16
Wrong again. From either end it's made to take lives. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #19
Incorrect....made to save lives. ileus Feb 2012 #27
What absolute drivel. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #35
Often it is necessary to take lives in order to save innocent lives. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #32
Very true and you would also use your gun on TP'ing "vandals". Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #33
Not to mention his belief that he deserves... ellisonz Feb 2012 #80
What a nutjob! Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #85
So why do police carry firearms? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #31
Simple answer. Because in this country, they're told to. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #36
Damn... ellisonz Feb 2012 #38
Great minds think alike Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #53
You were a cop in the UK? Particulars please. Straw Man Feb 2012 #40
I'm not familiar with current "procedures", having been here for the last 30+ years Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #63
So your personal experience is at least 30 years out of date. Straw Man Feb 2012 #64
So why do they carry them in those special circumstances? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #68
Why do they carry them in those special circumstances? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #100
So ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #103
To protect life from terrorists Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #104
Bingo. Straw Man Feb 2012 #106
And what is that same reason? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #114
To protect innocent lives Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #116
Thank you for admitting that firearms can also save lives. n/t Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #125
I've never claimed they can't. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #127
See this thread Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #128
You did not answer the question. PavePusher Feb 2012 #102
Guns can also save lives. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #28
Police carry guns because criminals have guns. ellisonz Feb 2012 #37
Then how do you explain Japan ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #41
Tradition and paranoia... ellisonz Feb 2012 #42
There are a lot of reasons gejohnston Feb 2012 #43
Would you care to explain why Britain has a lower homicide rate despite having a gang problem? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #45
there are many reasons gejohnston Feb 2012 #46
Here's the thing about your single claim... ellisonz Feb 2012 #47
Facts? Straw Man Feb 2012 #48
Well I think the homicide rates speak for themselves... ellisonz Feb 2012 #50
For homicide rates ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #52
Where's the distortion? Straw Man Feb 2012 #54
I did claim such a thing... ellisonz Feb 2012 #81
Oh, so it's a teleological discussion now? Straw Man Feb 2012 #92
You were doing well... ellisonz Feb 2012 #96
First mistake is taking Dirty Harry movies as reality. Straw Man Feb 2012 #98
"some of which simulate combat and many of which do not." ellisonz Feb 2012 #99
Sure. Straw Man Feb 2012 #101
Too easy... Clames Feb 2012 #108
One word: snipers. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #110
One word: wrong. Straw Man Feb 2012 #111
LOL Clames Feb 2012 #118
Oh gun porn... ellisonz Feb 2012 #119
And that simulates... Clames Feb 2012 #121
what evidence you have gejohnston Feb 2012 #51
Britain had a lower homicide rate in the 19th century ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #49
And the cops didn't carry them back then either. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #60
So the US murder rate was higher due to armed cops? Straw Man Feb 2012 #65
Why is arming the police bad? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #66
Against the rules? Straw Man Feb 2012 #78
What's your point? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #97
My point? Straw Man Feb 2012 #105
So in those "special circumstances", why do they carry guns? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #69
Both. ellisonz Feb 2012 #70
Wrong. Straw Man Feb 2012 #82
Your question is a falsely binary... ellisonz Feb 2012 #83
For starters, I didn't ask any question. Straw Man Feb 2012 #84
That's like your interpretation, dude. ellisonz Feb 2012 #107
Sigh ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #112
There are more than a few bad cops too. ellisonz Feb 2012 #113
Murderous ones? Straw Man Feb 2012 #115
Glad you admit that guns are thus used to save lives. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #87
I'm honest. ellisonz Feb 2012 #88
I'm honest too. If you die during the commission of a violent crime, I'm not really concerned about Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #90
Same reason non-criminal citizens carry them, too. Union Scribe Feb 2012 #122
Holy shit, all my guns are broken! AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #55
Excellent news! Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #62
Just to be sure, I tested one this evening. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #72
Had that happen earlier this week. Clames Feb 2012 #76
Each is task specific subject to use/misuse by the holder. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #131
Heck of an argument you got there. I guess you win. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #132
May she rest in peace. My sincerest condolences to the family and friends. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #8
Thank You!! CokeMachine Feb 2012 #21
welcome to DU Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #26
Thank You CokeMachine Feb 2012 #44
Her family has forgiven the shooter. n/t burf Feb 2012 #34
yes, I know. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #39
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