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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
23. Several reasons
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

First is the idea of registration; lots of people are against it, for various reasons.

Second is the definition of "transfer" and the potential for confusion and abuse by the authorities. For example, can I loan a friend that I know can legally buy guns a gun of mine for a weekend hunting trip? Do I need to do a background check for that? How long in terms of time and/or distance could I loan a friend a gun? If my sister gets beaten by her husband and goes into hiding, can I loan her a gun?

Third is the idea of effectiveness. Does it work? What is the primary source of guns for career criminals? How much of a deterrent is not being able to buy a gun to a career criminal or a determined purchaser? My state currently has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, yet there are still plenty of dead bodies with bullet holes in them.

Fourth, what about false positives?

Fifth, what about under-funding the background check system with the intention of denying people the ability to purchase guns? A parallel example would be Scott Walker's Wisconsin requiring photo ID to vote, then closing down lots of DMV offices in "certain" areas to make it very hard for "certain" people to vote.

The concept isn't horrible or evil, but the execution is up for discussion.

Guns don't kill people; mindem Jan 2016 #1
Guns make it easy forgotmylogin Jan 2016 #26
according to the Wright Rossi study in the 1980s gejohnston Jan 2016 #2
So, is the counter proposal ... earthside Jan 2016 #3
that study was done before the current federal background checks gejohnston Jan 2016 #5
who is calling for NO background checks Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #6
I'm not saying that someone in particular is ... earthside Jan 2016 #10
Better enforcement of the existing laws and a major upgrade in the NICS system is a good start DonP Jan 2016 #13
Concerning UBCs... Eleanors38 Jan 2016 #24
Two words. Straw Man Jan 2016 #4
why no arrests? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #7
227 arrests ... earthside Jan 2016 #12
227 out of 6590? Straw Man Jan 2016 #18
I think many Coloradans would say the new laws are working. earthside Jan 2016 #19
I'm not sure what we're looking at there. Straw Man Jan 2016 #25
mean ole guns....why won't they stop killing people. ileus Jan 2016 #8
Is there any intention on your part to address the tremendous "trust deficit" that accompanies Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #9
Gun control people feel the same way about gun rights people. earthside Jan 2016 #11
NRA pushed for NICS Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #14
I'm for minimal restrictions. earthside Jan 2016 #16
After Sandy Hook gun control activists poisoned every proposal with talks of bans and registration. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #21
Link please. mikeysnot Jan 2016 #27
That's what *you* claim about your counterparts. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #15
Except that 'gun rights people' aren't trying to take any thing away or limit the personal choices.. beevul Jan 2016 #17
FWIW, gun rights activist here...and helped pass my state's UBC law. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #20
A BGC law is a good thing but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #22
Several reasons krispos42 Jan 2016 #23
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