Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts) Fri Jan 8, 2016, 09:03 PM Jan 2016

Can we stop with useless ideas about gun-control? [View all]

Is there anyone out there who thinks once registered a gun cannot be:
>> illegally sold
>> legally sold but mistakenly not correctly re-registered
>> stolen
>> "stolen"
>> used in a crime by its registered owner
...

Had every one of Nancy Lanza's guns been registered, a school would still have been attacked.
There are now 300,000,000 unregistered guns in the US. The jurisdictions that have required some form of registration for some guns have seen compliance rates of less than 15%. Someone in another thread has pointed out that 50,000 guns are stolen per year. Do the math; criminals will run out guns in about 5,000 years. That's if every last newly produced gun is registered.

Can we talk about the ideas that have a chance of making a difference?
Please?

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Can we stop with useless ideas about gun-control? [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 OP

I've seen people run through red lights. dogman Jan 2016 #1

Having a speed limits makes driving safer discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #3

A speed limit may or may not make driving safer, it is a factor though. dogman Jan 2016 #5

Registration is meaningless discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #8

Seems simple. dogman Jan 2016 #12

An auto registration allows the police... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #27

The U.S. Constitution is a piece of paper. lastlib Jan 2016 #14

As far as paper is concerned... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #31

Like replace the 2A with a ban and confiscate amendment and mandatory life sentences for possession? LonePirate Jan 2016 #2

Wouldn't it be easier to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #4

For me, liberty is going to the grocery store without being shot and killed. LonePirate Jan 2016 #9

The chances of you being shot and killed while going to the store are so statistically small, GGJohn Jan 2016 #10

That's right safeinOhio Jan 2016 #13

I have dozens of firearms for self defense? GGJohn Jan 2016 #15

I must safeinOhio Jan 2016 #16

I have numerous times said that the vast majority of my firearm collection are GGJohn Jan 2016 #20

Not much liberty to be had if you're dead, is the exact reason we fight for the 2A. ileus Jan 2016 #35

re: "Not much liberty to be had if you're dead." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #125

The odds of you being killed by a drunk driver are about the same. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #133

You're funny, delusional, but funny. GGJohn Jan 2016 #6

I'm sure Clinton or Sanders will be sure to campaign on that platform this election... branford Jan 2016 #7

Please don't threaten civil wars here on DU. stone space Jan 2016 #11

Please don't start your bullshit here again, GGJohn Jan 2016 #17

There is no need for war. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #18

There is no need for lying either. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #21

Stop erecting slanderous strawmen. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #22

Reference was to a civil war. stone space Jan 2016 #23

A reference isn't a threat. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #24

If somebody is going to start a civil war, they... stone space Jan 2016 #25

Please feel free to start confiscations any time now DonP Jan 2016 #28

What's with the tough guy act? stone space Jan 2016 #30

Yup, back you your old tricks huh. GGJohn Jan 2016 #33

No I just don't think much of whiny and pompous "Keyboard Kommandos" DonP Jan 2016 #50

Why would a mathematician be going door to door looking for guns? stone space Jan 2016 #53

So you want somebody else to do all the dirty work, pretty much what we'd expect DonP Jan 2016 #54

I'm a mathematician. I don't collect guns. You aren't making any sense here at all. stone space Jan 2016 #55

"I'm a mathematician." GGJohn Jan 2016 #56

Then why do you want me to do somebody else's job? stone space Jan 2016 #57

Pure comedy gold. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #58

Why do you consider work "dirty"? stone space Jan 2016 #59

LOL, afraid? GGJohn Jan 2016 #60

Gotta luv... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #100

Ummm, because they aren't smart enough to do anything else? DonP Jan 2016 #61

Putting mathematicians in charge of law enforcement is a useless idea. stone space Jan 2016 #93

So now you're saying that someone else said what you said I said? GGJohn Jan 2016 #95

Wow!! That is some seriously twisted stuff you got back right there. DonP Jan 2016 #97

Putting university professors in charge of law enforcement is not a useful idea. stone space Jan 2016 #98

Repealing the... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #101

I'd support repeal. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #103

Let me ask you a question Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #109

Tell me... tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #129

Pretty typical behavior... Puha Ekapi Apr 2016 #132

Absolutely agree, utterly unqualified for any serious responsibility DonP Jan 2016 #104

Why do you feel the need to make personal insults? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #105

Statements of simple proven facts are not "insults" DonP Jan 2016 #107

Not interested in subjecting myself to your abuse. stone space Jan 2016 #108

Buh bye! Miss you lots DonP Jan 2016 #112

he is back on another vacation Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #117

Now that's funny! Who did he piss off this time? DonP Jan 2016 #120

his poll and attack at me Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #121

That might be a new record for him DonP Jan 2016 #122

yep, surprised me. Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #123

OMFG beevul Apr 2016 #126

Many monitors and keyboards have... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #127

Back to your old same self eh stone? eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #29

only if they lose n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #32

Depends on the justification, really. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #37

We are talking about Domestic Terrorists here. (NT) stone space Jan 2016 #38

Ummm, no, we're not. GGJohn Jan 2016 #40

Um...okay. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #42

You would have supported the Crown? Marengo Jan 2016 #115

No question mark necessary there. N/T beevul Jan 2016 #118

Depends on which side you personally want to win. beevul Apr 2016 #130

"If somebody is going to start a civil war, they should have all of their guns confiscated" beergood Apr 2016 #139

One of the earliest recorded responses discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #140

Well, now we know which side of Concord Bridge "Stony" would stand on. DonP Apr 2016 #141

remember, he is a perfessserr Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #46

A proooofesser in his own mind. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #47

That this person claims to be an educator is a rather disturbing... Marengo Jan 2016 #114

Well, good job that it's in mathematics, I guess. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #116

It's an even worse thing to promote...which is what your idea would do. ileus Jan 2016 #36

Why should Domestic Terrorists not be disarmed? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #39

And you wonder why you're constantly on a time out, here and there. GGJohn Jan 2016 #41

just a matter of time Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #48

Someone should start a, well, never mind, someone will inevitably alert on it. eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #49

Your are suggesting Branford was threatening civil war? Marengo Jan 2016 #113

It would make a difference, all right. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #19

How to repeal the 2nd, or any other amendment is all laid out for you DonP Jan 2016 #26

We may also call a Constitutional Convention. branford Jan 2016 #34

That ranks up there with leaving keys for a federal building gejohnston Jan 2016 #44

I know that's "technically" possible but it's never been tried that I could find. DonP Jan 2016 #51

Starting a constitutional convention is a trip down the rabbit hole. branford Jan 2016 #62

Agreed, they talk a good game but ... DonP Jan 2016 #63

re: "a trip down the rabbit hole" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #80

We need to know who has the guns first mwrguy Jan 2016 #85

and that my friend is why Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #87

And you wonder why gun control is a smoking wreck in this country? GGJohn Jan 2016 #89

I've been ignoring the NRA's useless ideas for a long time. lastlib Jan 2016 #43

Okay discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #45

Enforce the laws we have now with 840high Jan 2016 #52

If only that would happen. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #65

It was suggested above that university professors be put in charge of law enforcement. stone space Jan 2016 #64

Could you either link to the post you refer to or... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #66

It's not my idea. It comes from one of the gunners here. stone space Jan 2016 #67

The idea keeps coming up? GGJohn Jan 2016 #70

It has before, and it will again. stone space Jan 2016 #72

Then provide a link, GGJohn Jan 2016 #73

What is the idea Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #82

I'd be happy to but ask who? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #74

Well, he says it's my idea, but for the life of me, GGJohn Jan 2016 #75

You are being disengenuous if you claim to not be able to read this short thread. stone space Jan 2016 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2016 #79

You brought it up discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #83

I didn't bring it up. stone space Jan 2016 #86

Your post #64 brought it up to me discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #88

How did you get to #68 without passing thru #28? (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2016 #94

Why are you asking about #68? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #96

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #92

can you specify and who keeps bringing this up? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #81

How about a link to this claim? eom. GGJohn Jan 2016 #68

It's your idea. Asking for a link is disengenuous. stone space Jan 2016 #69

My idea? GGJohn Jan 2016 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2016 #77

well then, you should be able to link to Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #84

If Nancy Lanza knew mainstreetonce Jan 2016 #78

And if I win tonight's powerball I promise to send you some discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #90

Where did all the posts go? stone space Jan 2016 #99

Maybe the same place as your answer to my post #96 discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #110

a little off topic beergood Apr 2016 #128

Just to clarify... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #131

What's useless is the way gun zealots snort at all ideas for gun control Warpy Jan 2016 #102

Sorry, that's not going to happen DonP Jan 2016 #106

For the time being... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #111

Sure you are. beevul Jan 2016 #119

Just so you know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #124

All rampage killers are dead-enders. They continue until killed, wounded or commit suicide. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #134

The warm feeling they get from knowing... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #135

If law enforcement were a magic panacea it could interdict the rampage killers before they act. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #136

I didn't say it was a practical idea discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #137

"big brother can 'round 'em all up" beergood Apr 2016 #138

Other Amendments are no problem sarisataka Apr 2016 #142