Gun Control & RKBA

saras

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7. More fair and honest to compare gun collectors to collectors of medieval torture equipment...

Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:00 PM

Feb 2012

Guns are killing tools. Pistols are human-killing tools. Someone who fetishes over a people-killing tool and DOESN'T UNDERSTAND why other people are uncomfortable with that??? Someone who loves machining can find plenty of other machined things to admire, that don't have the primary purpose of killing people, and all the emotional connotations that come with that.

It's probably the idea of someone who spends a lot of time thinking about guns and DOESN'T think about killing with them that seems unbelievable and bizarre - who could trust someone capable of that kind of denial?

It just seems really stupid to pretend that they are pliers or something, and that they don't, to the vast majority of humans on earth, have a powerful set of emotional connotations, almost none of which have anything to do with hunting and almost all have to do with military oppression.

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Gun Culture?? Many here do not realize Guns are a Hobby and a Tool and a Collectors item. [View all] Logical Feb 2012 OP

Guns are stolen for the purpose of committing crimes. the other one Feb 2012 #1

Yes there is. You might not like it but they are still collecting it. Logical Feb 2012 #3

So are cars. TheWraith Feb 2012 #4

Personally, I like to build early American long guns. Here are a couple. OffWithTheirHeads Feb 2012 #2

Very nice work. Looks like a lot of patience went into those. (Ntxt) DonP Mar 2012 #52

What are those? rwiliff Mar 2012 #98

Exactly! The lower one is a flintlock modeled on a Lancaster Pennsylvania gun OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2012 #99

check your PM's oneshooter Mar 2012 #100

I will admit I liked shooting guns when I was a kid. tridim Feb 2012 #5

I know people like that also. It is scarier when someone seems obsessed with guns I will admit. Logical Feb 2012 #18

and that right there: iverglas Feb 2012 #6

Well, if you find a good way to disarm criminals that does not violate the 2nd. Let me know and I... Logical Feb 2012 #8

nah, how about iverglas Feb 2012 #10

So if I can prove some person is alive because of a gun I win? Wow, really? Logical Feb 2012 #15

was this a contest? iverglas Feb 2012 #16

See you did not do what I asked. You antis never do...... Logical Feb 2012 #17

Oh dear -- I'm sorry, but did you miss post 10? iverglas Feb 2012 #21

Let me answer for you..... Logical Feb 2012 #25

who's complaining about guns?? iverglas Feb 2012 #31

This is where the rest of us snork... Clames Mar 2012 #34

The Jello.... It's ba-a-a-a-a-ck....... PavePusher Mar 2012 #59

We gonna put you in for the Secretary of Needs Dept also? rl6214 Feb 2012 #20

my my iverglas Feb 2012 #23

Don't think I've EVER said I "need" guns rl6214 Feb 2012 #28

follow the dotted lines iverglas Feb 2012 #29

Come on, you're not that dense... rl6214 Mar 2012 #35

Those bread crumbs... Clames Mar 2012 #38

Because if criminals have them then I might need them. And it has been needed many times! Logical Feb 2012 #24

ah, you *might* need them iverglas Feb 2012 #30

Not having to justify need is a major element of freedom. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #91

welcome, and just a tip: iverglas Mar 2012 #94

Bullshit rl6214 Feb 2012 #19

pft pft pft pft pft! iverglas Feb 2012 #22

Yada, yada, yada rl6214 Feb 2012 #27

hahahahaha iverglas Mar 2012 #32

What you've stated is an opinion rl6214 Mar 2012 #36

and what I quoted was the wiki consensus opinion iverglas Mar 2012 #37

Damn, sounds like you are having a rough time... rl6214 Mar 2012 #42

That shit made me laugh.. pipoman Mar 2012 #82

I won't say you made that up ;) iverglas Mar 2012 #95

Hope your recovery is quick :) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #60

That's a really sociologically inadequate definition. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #41

In your opinion, to the rest of us it is just right. rl6214 Mar 2012 #43

A sign that other countries "culture" does not embrace liberty. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #47

disgusting iverglas Mar 2012 #48

So is death by machete. nt Remmah2 Mar 2012 #50

Now THAT picture is powerful! DWC Mar 2012 #66

Rwanda Remmah2 Mar 2012 #86

Guess that makes me a member of the fire extinguisher culture, and DWC Mar 2012 #56

well, do you hang around the internet iverglas Mar 2012 #58

iverglas wrote: DWC Mar 2012 #79

I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear! iverglas Mar 2012 #80

Oh, you were clear. Clearly Wrong - Again. DWC Mar 2012 #87

More fair and honest to compare gun collectors to collectors of medieval torture equipment... saras Feb 2012 #7

So you think gun collectors want to kill someone? Logical Feb 2012 #9

If you're going to lie that grossly about my clearly visible post, how do you expect a sane debate? saras Mar 2012 #83

Don't think about elephants. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #90

My SD firearms are people saving tools. ileus Feb 2012 #12

You win the hyperbole award. Straw Man Feb 2012 #14

Sigh Remmah2 Mar 2012 #51

Guns kil people....and are scary. ileus Feb 2012 #11

Some don't like guns. They never will. No matter what you say. bluerum Feb 2012 #13

Why are you defensive about "gun culture"? RevStPatrick Feb 2012 #26

Probably because the term is regularly used here Union Scribe Mar 2012 #46

And those things can be done without packing in public. Hoyt Mar 2012 #33

So you know how to disarm criminals? Do tell!!! Logical Mar 2012 #39

Oh come on. Not that "criminal" behind every tree junk. Hoyt Mar 2012 #40

Did I say that? When? But there are people out there who want to hurt you. I agree.... Logical Mar 2012 #69

Don't give them the damn gun in the first place!!! ellisonz Mar 2012 #44

That toothpaste isn't going back in the tube, though. Union Scribe Mar 2012 #45

90+% of general population does fine without resorting to tucking a gun in their waistband. Try it. Hoyt Mar 2012 #57

+1 ellisonz Mar 2012 #62

It's reality. Deal. Union Scribe Mar 2012 #81

Someone's giving guns away? Where?! I've had to pay for all of mine, darnnit. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #55

Good idea. How are you going to stop them from getting a gun? Logical Mar 2012 #67

Reasoned firearms regulations such as safe-storage laws, sales restrictions and the like... ellisonz Mar 2012 #70

I don't really disagree with either of those. Hard to regulate private sales though. Logical Mar 2012 #71

I think most gun owners want to do the right thing... ellisonz Mar 2012 #72

This is just more of the same.. pipoman Mar 2012 #85

Please explain your proposed "safe storage laws" for us. oneshooter Mar 2012 #73

Ov Vey. ellisonz Mar 2012 #76

Unwilling, or afraid? oneshooter Mar 2012 #88

The real criminals are legal gun owners... ileus Mar 2012 #49

See, I understand some of the Anti's points. But saying that makes you lose any.... Logical Mar 2012 #68

The only difference between one-eyed fat man Mar 2012 #54

there are plenty of examples of firearms melm00se Mar 2012 #53

Guns as beautiful as Mona Lisa -- are you kidding us? Hoyt Mar 2012 #61

it is arrogant melm00se Mar 2012 #63

Whatever you think of Mona Lisa, I would hope you find it more aesthetically appealing than a gun. Hoyt Mar 2012 #65

And Glock doesn't make any of those... ellisonz Mar 2012 #64

Please tell us what a "assault rifle" is, as defined by you. oneshooter Mar 2012 #74

lol ellisonz Mar 2012 #75

By that definiton gejohnston Mar 2012 #84

There's that "N" word again. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #77

Do you realize how incredibly crass that phrasing sounds? n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #78

You are right. We must realise that your hoplophobia causes you to oneshooter Mar 2012 #89

Do you realize how incredibly crass you are to propose to know the needs of others? Callisto32 Mar 2012 #96

I'm not the one co-opting a term like that to make a petty political point. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #97

Nice Try. Paladin Mar 2012 #92

provide evidence of gejohnston Mar 2012 #93