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In reply to the discussion: Gun Culture?? Many here do not realize Guns are a Hobby and a Tool and a Collectors item. [View all]pipoman
(16,038 posts)85. This is just more of the same..
proposal of the impossible, denial of the truth, and unwillingness to budge like a child not wanting to eat their brussel sprouts..the chicken and the egg, ya know?
"I don't object to opening up the ability to access background checks for private sales. But I think it needs to be mandatory or people won't bother with the extra step."
It can not be mandatory at the federal level, that pesky commerce clause and all. This is so painfully easy it is unbelievable how often it is bandied about. The only hope for those interested, and don't kid yourself, the Brady's really aren't interested in fixing the private sale issue, is to make NICS available for voluntary use by private sellers, then lobby each state to legislate use of the already established access as mandatory. This is the conundrum used by the gun control activists to continue fund raising for a cure to an impossible problem and refusal to support or suggest anything which may ultimately lead to the stated goal. Face it, if private sale background checks were ultimately required at most or all state levels, what would the gun control orgs then use to raise money so the leaders could maintain their incomes?
"This isn't rocket science, and until we start taking measures to attempt to confront this problem, we have to accept that there will be a substantial level of gun violence in this country. There is no logical reason why we can't live in a safer society and still uphold the Second Amendment. Yes We Can."
No you can't. At least by screaming for an unconstitutional impossibility to the exclusion of all others.
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Gun Culture?? Many here do not realize Guns are a Hobby and a Tool and a Collectors item. [View all]
Logical
Feb 2012
OP
Personally, I like to build early American long guns. Here are a couple.
OffWithTheirHeads
Feb 2012
#2
Exactly! The lower one is a flintlock modeled on a Lancaster Pennsylvania gun
OffWithTheirHeads
Mar 2012
#99
I know people like that also. It is scarier when someone seems obsessed with guns I will admit.
Logical
Feb 2012
#18
Well, if you find a good way to disarm criminals that does not violate the 2nd. Let me know and I...
Logical
Feb 2012
#8
Because if criminals have them then I might need them. And it has been needed many times!
Logical
Feb 2012
#24
More fair and honest to compare gun collectors to collectors of medieval torture equipment...
saras
Feb 2012
#7
If you're going to lie that grossly about my clearly visible post, how do you expect a sane debate?
saras
Mar 2012
#83
Did I say that? When? But there are people out there who want to hurt you. I agree....
Logical
Mar 2012
#69
90+% of general population does fine without resorting to tucking a gun in their waistband. Try it.
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#57
Someone's giving guns away? Where?! I've had to pay for all of mine, darnnit.
Johnny Rico
Mar 2012
#55
Reasoned firearms regulations such as safe-storage laws, sales restrictions and the like...
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#70
I don't really disagree with either of those. Hard to regulate private sales though.
Logical
Mar 2012
#71
See, I understand some of the Anti's points. But saying that makes you lose any....
Logical
Mar 2012
#68
Whatever you think of Mona Lisa, I would hope you find it more aesthetically appealing than a gun.
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#65
Do you realize how incredibly crass you are to propose to know the needs of others?
Callisto32
Mar 2012
#96
I'm not the one co-opting a term like that to make a petty political point. n/t
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#97