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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
66. If you are concerned about the safety of your loved one
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

there is a lot you can do.

I certainly worry about my wife, who suffers from MS, and has had a few bad falls. So, when we finally paid off our old house, I went looking for one that was a single story, and thus had no steps to climb (Her last fall on the steps in 2013 resulted in a very badly broken wrist requiring extensive surgery and rehab, which was pretty expensive, even with insurance).

I found a nice, somewhat older house that fit the bill, and immediately was advised by relatives to install a monitored burglar alarm and/or buy a gun due to it being set back from the street, and in their opinion, prone to attract thieves.

Looking over the price of alarms, I decided to pass on monitored ADT crap with a call center that the police respond to eventually (usually 30+ minutes, if you are lucky) and instead installed my own sensors and CCTV system for about the same cost as an AR-15.

The system is hooked direct to our cel phones and allows us to monitor the inside and outside of the house when we are away or home. Open any door or window, and we immediately get a text on our phone. Move around inside the house and we get a text on our phone. We can then immediately hook into any camera inside our outside the house, and see what is going on (mostly it is the cat, who despite careful placing and adjusting of sensors, still trips the system from time to time).

If I were to see someone messing around the outside of my house, I would call the police, and as I am a home owner, not a call center, and I am telling the police I am watching intruders as we speak, the response time is less than 5 minutes. I have not yet had to test this, but conversations with some LEOs informs me this is true. 99% of the time a burglar alarm call is a false alarm, so such calls have a low priority. But a call straight from the owner gets an expedited reaction.

Oh, I also have flood lights mounted on the eaves of my house with motion sensors which cut them on after dark. That means it is safer to move around outside after dark and anyone approaching the house after dark trips the lights.

If you have a halfway decent broadband connection, these systems work fine. Not perfectly, but much safer than fire arms, and since you monitor the system yourself via you smartphone, ipad or computer, no monthly fees.

As to other issues, we buy the safest used car we can find, with the latest safety features we can afford. We check in with each other when we are going places and so we can be sure we arrive safe. My sister keeps track of her kids the same way.

I get the HVAC inspected twice a year, have smoke/CO detectors and I can track this on my phone where ever I go. Oh, and the system locks up the house automatically when we leave if we forget to.

Again, all of this for about what it costs for a single AR-15.

I don't look to "fight" back. I just work with existing tech and prudent practices to stay as informed about things as possible.

Scientia est potesta, "Knowledge is power", was my old military school motto.

This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 OP
I guess you're not worried about collateral damage. PeoViejo May 2016 #1
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Having experience with the M16 in vietnam, I am not a fan of 5.56mm 1939 May 2016 #104
A .729 caliber is "kinder and gentler" than a centerfire .22? benEzra May 2016 #99
An honest AR owner: I buy one because I am afraid. Buzz Clik May 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #7
Well, last I checked Kelvin Mace May 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #32
So, you already have firearms and you wish to add an AR-15? Kelvin Mace May 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #51
True, and the likelyhood of them killing you is pretty low Kelvin Mace May 2016 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #56
If you are concerned about the safety of your loved one Kelvin Mace May 2016 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #68
Setting up this type of system is not that hard Kelvin Mace May 2016 #72
Most of the gun owners I know are the opposite of "fearful", they are the most brave, since 10s braddy May 2016 #103
I don't fear guns Kelvin Mace May 2016 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #112
Not a great metaphor, and you know why. (And you used the word "afraid") Buzz Clik May 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #43
You seem to be struggling with the reality of your own OP. Buzz Clik May 2016 #44
Is that applicable to any gun owner, or just those with AR-15s? Marengo May 2016 #16
I have four but I am not afraid hack89 May 2016 #58
Which is fantastic and rare for the group that normally argues such things. Buzz Clik May 2016 #60
My entire family shoots. nt hack89 May 2016 #61
ok. Makes total sense. Buzz Clik May 2016 #63
I own several. Not because I'm afraid. I enjoy shooting them. Waldorf May 2016 #74
You'll love it, they're really a blast to have fun with. ileus May 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #9
Yeah I've got the stainless CMMG kit. ileus May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #23
The glorification and fantasy is hilarious metroins May 2016 #4
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Ok metroins May 2016 #19
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For $100 more DashOneBravo May 2016 #37
I don't own an 870 oneshooter May 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #53
Doesn't the M-97 have a trigger disconnect? Hangingon May 2016 #89
Sorry that this is what it takes for you not to live in fear BeyondGeography May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #24
The AR Puha Ekapi May 2016 #6
Having used a M16A2 DashOneBravo May 2016 #11
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Are you really referring to 9/11 when you say COLGATE4 May 2016 #13
NO CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #21
"They targetted New York because of the strict gun control?" Really? Nitram May 2016 #18
NO CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #22
Why do you think NY was targeted, as per article? Kind of stuck out. Eleanors38 May 2016 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #90
Seek professional help SecularMotion May 2016 #14
Thank you doctor. And your diagnosis is...? Marengo May 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #25
You want an AR-15 because ISIS? stone space May 2016 #26
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Has ISIS been causing you problems, lately? (nt) stone space May 2016 #28
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Were you mentioned in the article? stone space May 2016 #30
No one knows. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #33
Would you be happier if it was because you anti-gunners hate them? N/T beevul May 2016 #67
Looks like you have already sucomed to the fear nt flamin lib May 2016 #34
No.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #35
Yes, you bought into the fear peddled by the gun lobby. flamin lib May 2016 #39
How many guns to have have, again? Marengo May 2016 #52
Are you going to carry it everywhere, at the ready? My Good Babushka May 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #41
So you're just going to have it at your house. My Good Babushka May 2016 #42
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:) My Good Babushka May 2016 #46
Ah, so the solution is to prepare for nothing? Marengo May 2016 #49
help help I'm falling My Good Babushka May 2016 #50
You've already planted your face tripping over the one you created Marengo May 2016 #97
if you need a gun to feel safe EdwardBernays May 2016 #38
I don't need a gun to feel safe. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #59
If any of those people need guns to feel safe EdwardBernays May 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #75
There's nothing you need a gun for EdwardBernays May 2016 #77
I think you are putting a lot of weight on yourself My Good Babushka May 2016 #84
"If being armed and prepared made people safe, no soldier would ever die." CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #92
People get along very well when they don't talk about politics or religion My Good Babushka May 2016 #96
Anyone who makes this type if ridiculous argument guillaumeb May 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #57
Do you truly feel that the actions that you describe provide safety? guillaumeb May 2016 #62
Then why does terrorism rate so high on people's minds? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #65
I think the news media makes a lot of money My Good Babushka May 2016 #76
How do we resist? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #79
Try getting on a plane with that cake knife. guillaumeb May 2016 #88
All great points, and the answer to all of them is probably "yes". guillaumeb May 2016 #87
W. was a fighter pilot with over 600 hours, among vets, fighter pilot ranks as solid. braddy May 2016 #106
"Again, great questions and the last should probably be the subject of a post." CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author potisok May 2016 #64
Terrorism never even enters into my self-defense/personal security planning. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #69
I agree with the others. Kang Colby May 2016 #70
So how are civilains supposed to respond to a constant barrage of fear mongering? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #71
I would never say don't buy a gun My Good Babushka May 2016 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #81
Just be an example of a "not scared person" My Good Babushka May 2016 #82
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lol, if I knew! My Good Babushka May 2016 #85
Learned helplessness CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #91
You might want to check out the Mini-14. jmg257 May 2016 #78
If you go with a Mini-14, get one 580- series or newer, benEzra May 2016 #100
I take reasonable precautions against pedestrian threats... Eleanors38 May 2016 #93
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Thanks for your comments. I think most of what passes for fear is actually anxiety... Eleanors38 May 2016 #98
If you have to own a gun, buy a .45 automatic. Those rounds tend not to go through walls mikehiggins May 2016 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #108
I'm surprised the OP feels a need to justify a gun purchase Buzz cook May 2016 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #107
So trolling Buzz cook May 2016 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #111
Hey if you say some thing that seems to be an admission Buzz cook May 2016 #113
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