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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
18. yes and Japan is not anywhere as individualistic as we are
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

and if you want an illegal gun there, it isn't that hard.
They have strict gun laws and also concept called giri. Murder suicides are suicides are are cold cases. IOW, if they counted the murder/suicides the way we do, their murder rate might be closer to ours.
Ours is mostly gang violence in some cities, theirs is a different issue. When I was on Okinawa, we had one shooting, a Yakusa hit.
If you think their gun laws are the reason why their murder rate is lower, your logical fallacy is
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/cumhocfa.html

Logical And Well Put.... global1 Jun 2016 #1
A question discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #2
Realistically... Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #8
An "assault weapon"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #15
So you ban handgrips that stick out, leaving equally capable firearms without protruding handgrips. benEzra Jun 2016 #23
Your last paragraph makes an excellent point. mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #3
Thank you (eom) Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #9
Those who want to commit mass murder will find a satisfactory method... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #21
Additionally, Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #24
outside of the US, they do use full autos gejohnston Jun 2016 #25
Why wouldn't real gun control ban all guns? ileus Jun 2016 #4
Oh yes, just like the illegal act... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #5
There's a difference between drugs and guns Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #10
Someone who... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #13
Not deterred Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #16
...just like all those heroin addicts that *could*... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #20
And, btw Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #17
yes and Japan is not anywhere as individualistic as we are gejohnston Jun 2016 #18
I hunt with one of... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #19
Even felons who turn a new page often seek out a weapon for self-defense... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #22
Logic fail - the actual common denominator (the 'problem') is a PERSON intent on killing. jonno99 Jun 2016 #6
In a sense you are correct... Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #11
Nobody has suggested "banning people". But as long as there are jonno99 Jun 2016 #12
. Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #14
As I pointed out in another response to you TeddyR Jun 2016 #26
"Some say the key to stopping mass killings is to ban all Muslims entry to the country." jmg257 Jun 2016 #7
Very good post. deathrind Jun 2016 #27
There are two problems with any ban (weapon -or- magazine): Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #28
Valid points... deathrind Jul 2016 #29
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