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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
21. Those who want to commit mass murder will find a satisfactory method...
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

be it fertilizer & fuel oil (OK City), gasoline (37 people in a New Orleans club, 1967), or black powder stripped from firecrackers (Boston Marathon). I support UBCs, but I am under no illusion that such measures will stop mass murderers. NOTE: Banning "assault weapons" (which were never banned) would send a mass murderer to a semi-auto pistol (the VT killer, 32 dead, using standard magazines).

A better approach may be to make settings for mass murders less attractive. Perhaps aggressive self-defense courses should be offered in the same manner as CPR training. The course could deal with ways to tun Toward the problem instead of away. Most folks would not take such a course, but most patrons/shoppers/students do not need such training, but neither do all folks need CPR training. Perhaps a few could at great risk attack the killer and stop him/her and lessen the damage. You may note that in attempts to debunk the idea that an armed "good guy" can stop a mass killer, some in MSM are only to willing to publish accounts of how someone(s) "tackled" and stopped a killer without a gun. So I am not the only one who believes the phenomenon exists.

No advocacy of firearm-only measures is suggested here.

Deal with the problem where it occurs.

Logical And Well Put.... global1 Jun 2016 #1
A question discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #2
Realistically... Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #8
An "assault weapon"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #15
So you ban handgrips that stick out, leaving equally capable firearms without protruding handgrips. benEzra Jun 2016 #23
Your last paragraph makes an excellent point. mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #3
Thank you (eom) Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #9
Those who want to commit mass murder will find a satisfactory method... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #21
Additionally, Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #24
outside of the US, they do use full autos gejohnston Jun 2016 #25
Why wouldn't real gun control ban all guns? ileus Jun 2016 #4
Oh yes, just like the illegal act... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #5
There's a difference between drugs and guns Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #10
Someone who... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #13
Not deterred Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #16
...just like all those heroin addicts that *could*... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #20
And, btw Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #17
yes and Japan is not anywhere as individualistic as we are gejohnston Jun 2016 #18
I hunt with one of... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #19
Even felons who turn a new page often seek out a weapon for self-defense... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #22
Logic fail - the actual common denominator (the 'problem') is a PERSON intent on killing. jonno99 Jun 2016 #6
In a sense you are correct... Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #11
Nobody has suggested "banning people". But as long as there are jonno99 Jun 2016 #12
. Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #14
As I pointed out in another response to you TeddyR Jun 2016 #26
"Some say the key to stopping mass killings is to ban all Muslims entry to the country." jmg257 Jun 2016 #7
Very good post. deathrind Jun 2016 #27
There are two problems with any ban (weapon -or- magazine): Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #28
Valid points... deathrind Jul 2016 #29
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