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beevul

(12,194 posts)
78. Priceless.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 04:49 PM
Mar 2012

""I'm not a gun grabber or controller" - I stand by that and challenge you to show where I have ever advocated taking guns away from people."

Do you really not remember saying this:

"Yes, thank you. All of those should be banned along with all handguns. You can keep the Mossberg if you change barrels."

Of course, now, you're going to try to play the "it doesn't really mean what it says" game, with your own words, just as you do with the words of the framers.

I'd like to be proven wrong on that count, but I wont be holding my breath...

"That is a behavior that I think should be illegal, solely because of the current out-of-control proliferation. Has nothing to do with banning ownership of guns."

AKA Because people are doing it. LOL. Too many, in your view. And you can't be bothered to objectively show why this is a problem. I think I know why. It isn't.

You just don't like it being done.


"As the madness continues, more folk will start to realize what is going on. I discuss this topic regularly with friends and acquaintances. You'd be amazed how few are aware of the loosening of gun laws. The irony is that I believe in the same individual rights as you, but I am far more realistic in my assessment. The gun nuts and compulsive carriers are ruining it for everyone else. The stupidity of these people is mind numbing. Like most societal excesses, there will be a breaking point, when government has no choice but to intervene. The writing is on the wall and you and those who think like you serve only to hasten the inevitable backlash."

You believe in the same individual rights as me? Really? You believe that that the right to keep and bear arms is protected from the great majority of governmental interference by the second amendment?

Do I really need to search you quoting "a well regulated militia" to chuck that one out the window as the misleading garbage that it is?

"Compulsive carriers" again...

"Ruining it for everyone else"? Really? They're going to ruin your ability to carry a gun? Please.

Oh, the backlash. Now I see. Tell you what, look at todays posts for some of the backlash you speak of... Say in Maryland...and get back to me.


"It isn't about me, young man."

Rofl @ young man. You could have thrown a BeEvil in there for good measure, couldn't you?

"I'm not the wolf in your cartoon."

So you claim, yet, your statements paint a different picture. Not my fault, and not my problem, my pleasure to point it out, however.

"You may well be the lamb, and if so, you need to learn not to flirt with the wolf."

I don't even know wtf that means lol. Perhaps you can randomly string together sentences of jibberish to make the same point.

"You seem to be intelligent and I'm sure that eventually the penny will drop."

love the smell of patronizing in the morning, do you?



What I find funny - "funny haha" - about the gun rights debate, is that the grabber types feel they have to hide, conceal, or soften the "gabber type image", lest they be percieved as grabber types. If being such is so reasonable and mainstream, why not embrace it - openly and outwardly?

What I find funny - "funny strange" - is that they think nobody will notice them doing it.

I suggest you read back through the archives of the gun forum, clear back to 2001, before you proceed with this foolishness any farther.



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Telling... ellisonz Feb 2012 #1
Back when Gov Dayton was a candidate, burf Feb 2012 #3
Sadly... Oneka Feb 2012 #5
OMG!! burf Feb 2012 #6
This from MinnPost....... burf Feb 2012 #7
You think Michele Bachmann can win state-wide office? ellisonz Mar 2012 #13
my two word reply is: Oneka Mar 2012 #44
Jesse Ventura was a different beast than Bachmann. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #45
He was my Gov for 4 years. Oneka Mar 2012 #49
I fail to see how..... PavePusher Feb 2012 #2
You often fail to see. It's no surprise. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #9
Nobody has this "get-out-of-jail-free" card. PavePusher Mar 2012 #39
Sure they do. Investigated translates as "showed the card" Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #51
Just keep saying it over and over DonP Mar 2012 #54
What's to look at? The DA was correct. She was not charged. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #55
Good vibs going the way of our friends in Minnesota... ileus Feb 2012 #4
Why do you mislabel this as a 'Castle Doctrine' bill? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #8
Examples Muriel? DonP Mar 2012 #10
We see examples daily of "legal" public executions in the guise of DGU. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #11
"We see examples daily of "legal" public executions in the guise of DGU." rl6214 Mar 2012 #12
Yep, it sure is bullshit when murder is legalized. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #33
can you name one country outside of the US gejohnston Mar 2012 #36
What are you saying? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #53
He specifically stated outside of the home. Glassunion Mar 2012 #56
Are you sure? He said "retreat out of your home" Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #58
Every circumstance is different... No I am not saying that I would shoot anyone. Glassunion Mar 2012 #61
Why not give him the keys? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #68
Give him the keys, seriously? And what's to make you think he won't whack you anyway? rl6214 Mar 2012 #70
I'm sure the price of a gun would cover the deductible. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #74
yes it is called duty to retreat law gejohnston Mar 2012 #60
Fascinating stuff. Especially the variations from state to state. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #69
Like the McDonald's coffee case (as I think Dantex once correctly pointed out) gejohnston Mar 2012 #71
I'll take the State Attorney's word over yours MicaelS Mar 2012 #14
The State Attorney was correct. The law is what is wrong. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #32
Murder is unlawful killing... MicaelS Mar 2012 #37
Aren't you a bright boy? Thank you. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #52
please explain gejohnston Mar 2012 #62
So, as usual you and Muriel got nothin' DonP Mar 2012 #15
Muriel and I have integrity. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #22
"...the stupidity of a few liberals who fall for all that crap about more guns..." DonP Mar 2012 #25
I doubt that many DU members carry guns in public. Maybe 30 or 40 max. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #31
"The only way is to enlighten people as to what is better for them as individuals ..." beevul Mar 2012 #47
Nice half quote BeEvil Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #50
There is a reason for that. beevul Mar 2012 #63
Not trying to fool anyone BeEvil. Trying to make them think. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #64
actually, claiming to be "civilized" is arrogant gejohnston Mar 2012 #65
Very true, but the tea is excellent and we all love cricket. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #66
sorry to only pick on the Brits gejohnston Mar 2012 #75
Uh huh. beevul Mar 2012 #72
"I rather thought I was reacting to someone who can't seem to keep a consistent position..." Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #73
Someone who can't seem to keep consistent with their own stated position, to put a finer point on it beevul Mar 2012 #76
Allow me to parse that for you Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #77
Priceless. beevul Mar 2012 #78
We all make choices. Have fun. Enjoy. Stay safe. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #79
You got any instances of burf Mar 2012 #34
Maybe it's my ESP, but I think it's self evident. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #57
So, the short burf Mar 2012 #59
Examples? It doesn't need examples muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #16
It's called "self defense" DonP Mar 2012 #17
The 'semantics game' was started in the OP muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #19
So you do think the people of Minnesota are just too stupid to understand the issue? DonP Mar 2012 #20
No, I think there are many people who hang out in this forum who are too stupid muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #21
"Too stupid to understand such issues" as in "They don't see it *my* way"? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #23
Too stupid to debate anything on DU other than guns (nt) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #24
Ever entertain the idea that some might actually know more about the subject... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #26
OMG! We all bow before your towering intellect... DonP Mar 2012 #27
As one who posts burf Mar 2012 #28
You are unable to talk about anything but guns muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #29
No, I just enjoy the gungeon. burf Mar 2012 #30
Dodge. Examples, please. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #42
Whatever happened to the civil discourse of DU3? It seems that the gun grabbers oneshooter Mar 2012 #35
It does seem to be getting more shrill lately DonP Mar 2012 #38
Dodge. Back to the examples, please. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #41
I'm gonna guess that s/he he is back to wherever in "triumph" in their success over the gun nuts DonP Mar 2012 #43
You have not yet cited any real-world examples. PavePusher Mar 2012 #40
There was no attempt to mislead, Oneka Mar 2012 #48
Then call it "A Stand Your Ground Law" MicaelS Mar 2012 #18
The bill strengthens "castle doctrine" Oneka Mar 2012 #46
If I defend myself pipoman Mar 2012 #67
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