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tortoise1956

(671 posts)
29. Speaking of misinformation...
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:50 AM
Jun 2016

The original AR-15 was a select-fire rifle in .223 caliber, based on the AR-10 design (7.62x51). It was sold to the military, by Colt, as the M-16. The models that were available on the civilian market were semi-auto only versions, beginning in 1963. It was originally marketed as a sporting rifle, NOT a poor man's battle rifle. As a matter of fact, there is a blurb at the following link about what they did to prevent converting the original semi-auto version to full-auto.
http://www.gunsmagazine.com/1964issues/G1264.pdf

The modern AR-15 is quite different from the original M-16, due in large part to extensive modifications to prevent easily converting them to full-auto. Yes, it can be done, but it is neither easy, nor is it legal for the average Joe, unless they have the correct paperwork in place. And since the number of crimes committed with full-auto !R-15's is on the order of infinitesimal, it's a safe bet to assume that there's no stampede of gun nuts making their AR-15's in to "weapons of war."

There is one definition of an assault rifle. Just because American politicians have co-opted the phrase and twisted its meaning into something else, doesn't make it correct.
http://www.tulprpc.org/attachments/File/Army_Gives_Definition_Of_Assault_Rifle.pdf

And the phrase "assault weapon" is mainly an invention of the gun control groups.
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Assault-Weapons.htm

The Gun Control Act of 1968 specifically addressed private sales, exempting them from any background check requirement. This is NOT a loophole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968

Anyone who tries to identify it as such either doesn't understand what a loophole is,
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/loophole
or is deliberately distorting facts in an attempt to make them fit their narrative.

Anything else you wish to use your pretzel logic on?

NOTE: Modern AR-15 semi-auto rifles are NOT in use in any military that I have ever heard of. However, I can't state that as an indisputable fact. If you know of one, please provide some documentation.

Edited to add a link to a story about the Associated Press Stylebook definition of Assault Rifle (fully automatic), and Assault weapon (semi-automatic only):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/01/17/is-it-fair-to-call-them-assault-weapons/

Edited again to soften the tone and remove what could be construed as a personal attack.

In that case we need to put ALL the guns down so no one can get hurt by them. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #1
Since... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #2
The right is to bear arms in a state organized militia. It is not and never has been a guarantee Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #3
And if anyone had actually made such a ludicrous argument, *I'd* be the first to argue with them friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #7
Interesting... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #18
What if we treated the 2nd safeinOhio Jun 2016 #5
because they were always thrown out of court as friviolus gejohnston Jun 2016 #10
Unless you safeinOhio Jun 2016 #11
drugs and guns are not comparable gejohnston Jun 2016 #12
Ahem. I give you the Remington 700, with its dodgy quality control friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #15
That could never have happened Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #19
product liability: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #13
Please do.. virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #4
You enjoy threatening an old man? Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #6
"Threatening an old man" with what? Knowledge? You lot always were prone to anti-intellectualism... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #8
And about that 'old man' remark: I qualify to buy into one of those 'active adult' (gag) friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #14
Ever hear anything back about that "threatening" accusation? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #28
Nope. Seems like Ford has driven away... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #30
Threat?! virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #16
FFS... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #22
It really says alot about the anti-gun mindset.. virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #27
Actually... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #9
Well, well, well. Straw Man Jun 2016 #17
It was never about "gun safety" Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #20
So under that program I suppose there would be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #21
Misinformation, rumors and just plain nonsense mistakes (the OP) jimmy the one Jun 2016 #23
so much facepalm discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #24
Equivocation. beevul Jun 2016 #25
Speaking of misinformation... tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #29
far better and more patient RME_SFC Jun 2016 #31
It wasn't easy... tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #33
Great post, thanks Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Paladin Jun 2016 #26
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