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In reply to the discussion: MSNBC gun carry poll. [View all]

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
13. bizarro world of polls, I voted twice
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jul 2016

beevul: Interesting results, even for an internet poll. Discuss.

What a bizarre introduction. As if saying, look at the ludicrous results which can be gotten from internet polls when it comes to guns, aren't they interesting as all get out? let's discuss how fun for us it is to see such inaccurate results from our fellow gun owners.
Or, look at the extreme results from an internet poll which demonstrates how fanatic gun enthusiasts are when it comes to responding to anything related to guns.

This is an UNscientific internet poll, & several of your 'fellow gun enthusiasts' cite it as somehow being the gospel truth:

sarisataka: Wasn't it last week We were told majority decides for everyone? ... So since it appears gun control is based on a bundle of lies, why should gun owners support gun control?

Just reading posts: 92% (almost half a million votes) for "Yes!" (jto: WHEEEEE! with such a high sample size the margin of error must be miniscule!)

TeddyR: On MSNBC Which I think generally has fairly liberal readers. And when you add in the 4% that said "only for self-defense" you get 96% in favor of some sort of public carry.


The above 3 gun enthusiasts 1) merely prove they have such little understanding of what an internet poll is, & 2) evidently are completely ignorant of what the actual split on the issue is since they evidently don't read reputable relevant polls, and 3) must be so utterly gullible to believe that 92% to 96% of americans really support the inane conclusion that people should be allowed to carry guns in public, whether concealed or open.
An internet poll is unscientific since it is not random. Gun enthusiasts can vote more than once, indeed as many times as they wish depending on their access to a different computer or likely a different log on screen name (some limit to a computer). Gun owners tend to be quite intense regarding gun control & guns, & 'vote' at a far greater rate than gun control advocates & impartials, which generally produces bogus pro gun results.
Pfft, I voted twice myself, once from the library then again from a nearby community college computer room. Within 2 hours, with the same log on name.

Instead of makiing fools of yourselves by supporting this crappy unscientific internet poll & touting it as somehow meaningful rather than absurdly inaccurate, why don't you all elucidate yourselves on the matter? ccw does have ~5 to 4 majority support, but hardly upper 90 percentiles:

6/20-23/16 recent, tho a leading question: "Would you support or oppose encouraging more people to carry guns legally for use in self defense?" Support ...54 ...Oppose ....42 ...Unsure ...4

ABC/WaPo: 12/10-13/15 "Which of these do you think is a better way to respond to terrorism in this country: by enacting stricter gun control laws, or by encouraging more people to carry guns legally?" Options rotated
Stricter gun laws 42%, More people carrying guns 47%, Both 1%, Neither 8%


CBS: 4/5-12/10 ...in states where it is legal to openly carry a gun, should private businesses like stores and restaurants be able to prohibit customers from openly carrying guns in their establishments, or should those customers be allowed to openly carry guns into the stores and restaurants?" Should be able to prohibit 74%; Should beallowed to openly carry 21%; Depends 3%;

I don't think you all are complete dolts on this, maybe you just need a refresher course, perhaps being just 'memory challenged'. Reputable polls will have a qualifier such as this: CBS News/New York Times Poll. April 5-12, 2010. N=1,580 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

MSNBC gun carry poll. [View all] beevul Jul 2016 OP
Just more proof that we need to repeal the 2A and confiscate every gun in civilian hands. LonePirate Jul 2016 #1
Curious, how does the poll result relate to your confiscatory position? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #3
My hat is off to you HDSam Jul 2016 #7
AKA, violence by proxy. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #11
` Hayduke Bomgarte Jul 2016 #4
Well, you get right on that. Be sure to keep us updated with your progress! Just reading posts Jul 2016 #6
No, no... the TTC is: "What could possibly go wrong?" Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #31
Wasn't it last week sarisataka Jul 2016 #10
...No... virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #12
You use of "we" means you'll be signing up to help? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #19
It's good to know that over 294,000,000 people don't agree n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #32
Not sure why the poll included the third choice. Confuses the issue. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #2
92% (almost half a million votes) for "Yes!" Just reading posts Jul 2016 #5
On MSNBC TeddyR Jul 2016 #8
The internet does tend to be overwhelmingly pro-2A. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #9
Except DU, it seems. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #26
bizarro world of polls, I voted twice jimmy the one Jul 2016 #13
I'm sure all the antigun folks... beevul Jul 2016 #14
your light needs a new bulb jimmy the one Jul 2016 #21
Says you. beevul Jul 2016 #22
getting under your skin, am I? jimmy the one Jul 2016 #24
You just can't quit, can you. beevul Jul 2016 #25
truth twisting con artist jimmy the one Jul 2016 #27
Truth denying spin failure. beevul Jul 2016 #28
methodology as well as respondents = proper poll jimmy the one Jul 2016 #29
Is doubling down on wrong a compulsion with you? beevul Jul 2016 #30
Well... tortoise1956 Jul 2016 #15
Taking things out of context sarisataka Jul 2016 #16
Those wacky internet polls... beevul Jul 2016 #17
Supports the contention that they are too lazy to bother DonP Jul 2016 #18
laziness has nowt to do with this jimmy the one Jul 2016 #23
obligatory dots jimmy the one Jul 2016 #20
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