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Gun Control & RKBA

Nuclear Unicorn

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25. How many innocent people are protected by the 4th Amendment versus criminals

Reply to SCantiGOP (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 09:08 PM

Jul 2016

who escape an otherwise justified conviction?

How many more criminals could we get off the street if only we just abolish the 4th Amendment?

Would it be worth the occasional innocent person being enduing warrantless search and seizure?

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Defensive use of firearms, using the VPC's numbers... [View all] virginia mountainman May 2016 OP

Josh is just so quizzical discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #1

He really does not care one iota about his hypocrisy.. virginia mountainman May 2016 #2

MORE DEFENSIVE USES THAN GUN DEATHS. beevul May 2016 #3

yea....and... virginia mountainman May 2016 #4

Except this study is baised so we know it isn't true scscholar Jul 2016 #29

The idea is to stop the aggressor and they don't always use bullets discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #30

Kickety kick. N/T beevul May 2016 #5

Where did you find this graph? It's not at your link. flamin lib May 2016 #6

"Lie much?" A lie like endorsing something you haven't tested? friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #7

K&R! Kang Colby May 2016 #8

K&R. N/T beevul May 2016 #9

Kickety kick. N/t beevul Jul 2016 #10

The stuff controllers don't like, and will deny even exists. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #11

Hell, they can totally ignore the 2013 CDC study and the results DonP Jul 2016 #12

Even if the numbers were 1 DGU to 9,000 criminal homicides that 1 is still justified. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #13

Want to make sure I understand you SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #17

How can defensive gun use *cause* criminal homicides (i.e. murder or manslaughter)? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #19

I'm pretty sure you understood SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #24

If 900,000 murders are occurring Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #28

In the real world, there are more defensive gun uses than there are murders/manslaughters friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #33

How many innocent people are protected by the 4th Amendment versus criminals Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #25

I understand SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #26

I answered your question. You just refuse to consider the fact that innocent people have rights. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #27

Kicking- because the doctrinaire find it inconvenient friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #14

From your VPC link: struggle4progress Jul 2016 #15

So you should be happy then... beevul Jul 2016 #16

Since "guns are designed to kill"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #18

You do realize that you weren't supposed to notice that? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #20

Oops........sorry discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #22

Wait, those bloodshirsty gunners aren't actually...bloodthirsty? beevul Jul 2016 #21

Bloody Mary is about as far as I go discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #23

A gun that holds just a few rounds is adequate then. Kaleva Jul 2016 #31

A few dozen rounds atleast.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #32

sloppy OP + bum link = 2ndAmendment Mythology jimmy the one Jul 2016 #34