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Gun Control & RKBA

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

6. A fallacy in your response:

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:19 PM

Jul 2016

That is not a fallacy- it is a declarative statement that is either true or false, depending
on the individual speaker's motive when buying said gun.

Yes, it is a declarative statement, but it is neither true nor false. Guns have been used defensively, but mere possession of a gun is not a guarantee. So it is a fallacy to declaratively state that guns provide personal protection.

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"NRA talking point(s)" is a thought-terminating cliché: [View all] friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 OP

So when the term "controllers" is used by some here when referring guillaumeb Jul 2016 #1

No, because it accurately describes their goal(s), whereas "NRA talking point(s)" is used... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #2

So if I use the term NRA-type talking points would that avoid the dreaded label? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #3

No, because it would still be an attempt to circumvent critical thought, either in the mind... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #4

"NRA talking point(s)" is also a genetic fallacy, as it attacks the purported source... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #5

A fallacy in your response: guillaumeb Jul 2016 #6

I must demur here, as your last line was not quite what you said originally. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #8

Oh, I agree there is no guarantee. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #11

Another example: Follow the money trail.... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #7

'Thought-terminating cliché' is concise, pithy, and a great response to those who use them friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #9

I kind of like the ring of TTC. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #10

I've always said ... Straw Man Jul 2016 #12