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petronius

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39. Maybe we should think about what a host would/could do within the group
Sun Dec 11, 2011, 03:18 PM
Dec 2011

As I understand, a host can really do three things:

1) Pin threads - I actually think this may be the most important, if only to pin up an ongoing thread where we discuss our community standards beyond the Statement of Purpose. Those standards, IMO, will never be binding in any way, set-in-stone, or finished, but they'll just be an ongoing conversation among group regulars that we can adhere to or not, and perhaps a resource for jury members. I would think that a pinned standards thread would also be a good place to talk about a host's performance.


2) Lock threads - this has the most potential for abuse, but the abuse would be more transparent that in the past. A host will need to make judgement calls about threads that violate the SoP, which will probably tick off everyone once in a while, but I do think that keeping the Group on topic is a worthy goal.

Other reasons for locks would be to clean up dupes (which I think will be less necessary in DU3, since I don't think there's a mechanism to move threads, and members can self-delete dupes on their own).

My suggestions on this point would be that we ask any GHost to interpret the SoP broadly, add a post with explanation before locking a thread, and default to not locking internal meta-threads (about the group, about locks, about hosts, etc). I would prefer that a host not lock threads based on our evolving internal community standards; I think those should be guidelines rather than rules.


3) Bar members from the Group - I expect this will be unused, really. As I recall, no one was ever banned from the DU2 gungeon, and I'd be startled if it became necessary here. (Perhaps the only use for this would be for those DUers who 'accidentally' posted on a Guns post from Latest, and then waxed on about how appalled they were at the existence of the Group and how they' never come in by choice - those DUers can be banned if they want, to eliminate the temptation or risk.)


Regarding your point about controlling the GHost, I think the only real mechanism (as Skinner has alluded to) is a gentleperson's agreement that the host will behave the way the Group wants, followed by an appeal to the Admins if the host proves unsuitable. Given that, I'm less inclined to develop criteria or time limits - I'd rather agree on one person that seems least likely to develop into a complete jackass over the years (Krispos fits that bill but I can think of others, including you) and let them run with it until we become unhappy...

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Does the Group need/want a host? [View all] petronius Dec 2011 OP
I'm not a denizen of the Gungeon - but kicking so your fellow citizens see your post. gateley Dec 2011 #1
maybe you and Krispos should shoot it out? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #2
I was gonna nominate you too, until I saw you'd volunteered for another group petronius Dec 2011 #3
moi? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #5
Heh, I just PMed Skinner and got back a link to the new process krispos42 Dec 2011 #4
fine by me. what say you Petronius? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #6
Yes! I think Krispos would be excellent in that first slot, petronius Dec 2011 #7
my thoughts, too. agreed. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #8
Thanks krispos42 Dec 2011 #9
Perhaps a few more "Ayes" would be in order, although there's no real definition petronius Dec 2011 #11
Does side matter? It didnt so much during the trial period... krispos42 Dec 2011 #12
Side? I just meant "Aye" as in "Yea" or "Yes" or even "Yup" to your election petronius Dec 2011 #13
I meant, should we wait for input from both sides? krispos42 Dec 2011 #14
I believe the 90 day thing is only pipoman Dec 2011 #17
I re-read the post about it, and you're right... krispos42 Dec 2011 #19
I agree that you would make a good first host. pipoman Dec 2011 #16
I vote for Krispos too nt gejohnston Dec 2011 #10
I think we should discuss community standards before pipoman Dec 2011 #15
The debate here IS unique krispos42 Dec 2011 #18
Good point.. pipoman Dec 2011 #20
I haven't seen any way that they could; I think the community standards referred to by petronius Dec 2011 #21
I understand that in the alert, you write your own note about why you're alerting krispos42 Dec 2011 #22
krispos42 would make a fine Host I vote for him n/t MicaelS Dec 2011 #23
I have thought of being a host here...Any feedback...... Logical Dec 2011 #24
I'm not sure if you want this feedback.. Upton Dec 2011 #25
No issue with you saying that, thanks for the feedback, but.... Logical Dec 2011 #26
I could be wrong -- but, I think to some people Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #30
Thanks for the feedback. I guess I think you can be pro-gun but against some gun proposals. Like.... Logical Dec 2011 #32
What have you said that is anti gun? Upton Dec 2011 #31
Wow, you are projecting...... Logical Dec 2011 #35
I'm not seeing how this effects pipoman Dec 2011 #36
No problem from me krispos42 Dec 2011 #27
I am 100% OK with you! No issue at all! Good luck! Logical Dec 2011 #28
For what it is worth, you seem to have a reasonable outlook on this topic. Hoyt Dec 2011 #37
Thanks! Logical Dec 2011 #38
Not necessarily krispos42 Dec 2011 #40
I agree. pipoman Dec 2011 #42
I think a person with a "reasonable outlook" can do that just fine. Hoyt Dec 2011 #43
a "reasonable outlook" on gun laws shouldn't be a consideration. krispos42 Dec 2011 #44
Another concern pipoman Dec 2011 #29
I think if it became a problem with the first Host, and the first Host refused to retire... krispos42 Dec 2011 #33
I don't disagree about your history or doubt your ability pipoman Dec 2011 #34
Maybe we should think about what a host would/could do within the group petronius Dec 2011 #39
I think 2 and 3 are interesting.. pipoman Dec 2011 #41
I don't think those committees are really analogous to the Host's duties, though. krispos42 Dec 2011 #45
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