Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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19. Clean your glasses.

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:33 PM

Aug 2016

The argument you seem to be making is that no guns are designed to kill until someone uses them, has the intent, and the skill to kill.

No, that's the argument you're assigning me.

My argument is that firearms are intended to project force when necessary.

The amount of force applied, and the target of that force, are completely independent of the design of the firearm, and the designers in fact design them specifically to work that way - based on user input.

Perfectly tenable, and completely factually true.

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"A gun is designed to kill"... [View all] beevul Aug 2016 OP

Like I said in the thread in the group Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #1

Just like a computer is designed... beevul Aug 2016 #2

Indeed so Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #9

Depends on the gun doesn't it? Buzz cook Aug 2016 #3

"What was this gun designed to do?" beevul Aug 2016 #5

The intent of the user has nothing to do with the design of the device. Buzz cook Aug 2016 #11

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. beevul Aug 2016 #12

You're just being silly now. Buzz cook Aug 2016 #13

No, I'm saying your example doesn't apply. beevul Aug 2016 #15

Now you're talking argle bargle Buzz cook Aug 2016 #18

Clean your glasses. beevul Aug 2016 #19

2 things Buzz cook Aug 2016 #23

No, not 2 things. beevul Aug 2016 #24

" Lethality is generally in the aim, and generally not simply in the firearm." Buzz cook Aug 2016 #25

That is because "usage" is dependent on a human user. oneshooter Aug 2016 #27

So, your point is what? Buzz cook Aug 2016 #34

That is correct. beevul Aug 2016 #28

"Yes, a victim with gun shot wound to the foot is a dead person." Buzz cook Aug 2016 #35

Then don't label it a gun death. Assign it to malpractice. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #38

Um, the past is in the past. Buzz cook Aug 2016 #39

have you ever seen beergood Aug 2016 #16

Most weapons originated from the desire to feed/defend oneself. Vilis Veritas Aug 2016 #4

My copy/paste response to this insipid "argument": pablo_marmol Aug 2016 #6

A theory regarding the psychology behind this "argument": pablo_marmol Aug 2016 #7

No different than a knife or bow n arrow. JonathanRackham Aug 2016 #8

"Olympic shooting sports = sniper training?" beergood Aug 2016 #41

Mine are for saving lives... ileus Aug 2016 #10

whoa wait beergood Aug 2016 #14

Who cares? I have numerous guns - designed to kill, designed for sport, designed for jmg257 Aug 2016 #17

"when you need to punch holes in things." beergood Aug 2016 #20

Ha - nice! :) nt jmg257 Aug 2016 #21

My last use of a "killer" firearm Mugu Aug 2016 #22

that sounds beergood Aug 2016 #42

That would be correct. Mugu Aug 2016 #43

Your false equivalency analogy is deeply flawed. procon Aug 2016 #26

No, it really isn't. beevul Aug 2016 #29

Still flawed. procon Aug 2016 #30

Awful lot of people have concealed carry permits - 5.2% of population , plus numerous states jmg257 Aug 2016 #32

re: "A person using a computer poses no threat to me..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #33

+1,000 pablo_marmol Aug 2016 #36

My update/paraphrase of an old saying discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #37

Damn. That's good. Saving! NT pablo_marmol Aug 2016 #44

You're just full of assumptions, which is the problem, and the fatal flaw of the entire argument. beevul Aug 2016 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #31

"a computer is designed to download and view porn" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #45