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In reply to the discussion: School Kids Dying in Ohio: It's a Gun Problem [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)80. When the same proposals are made in legislatures, they are acknowledged by all...
...as gun control measures- except by you, it would seem. An example would be this bill introduced in the Illinois House of Representatives:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1855&GAID=11&DocTypeID=HB&SessionID=84&GA=97
Short Description: FIREARM OWNERS-LOSS-THEFT
House Sponsors
Rep. Edward J. Acevedo, Maria Antonia Berrios and Luis Arroyo
Last Action
Date Chamber Action
1/25/2012 House Placed on Calendar - Consideration Postponed
Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8
720 ILCS 5/24-4.1 new
Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the Department of State Police may revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act of a person who fails to report the loss or theft of a handgun a second time to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the second loss or theft. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that if a person who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and who possesses or acquires a handgun thereafter loses or misplaces the handgun, or if the handgun is stolen from the person, the person must report the loss or theft to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the loss or theft. Effective immediately.
House Sponsors
Rep. Edward J. Acevedo, Maria Antonia Berrios and Luis Arroyo
Last Action
Date Chamber Action
1/25/2012 House Placed on Calendar - Consideration Postponed
Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8
720 ILCS 5/24-4.1 new
Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the Department of State Police may revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under the Act of a person who fails to report the loss or theft of a handgun a second time to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the second loss or theft. Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that if a person who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and who possesses or acquires a handgun thereafter loses or misplaces the handgun, or if the handgun is stolen from the person, the person must report the loss or theft to the local law enforcement agency within 72 hours after obtaining knowledge of the loss or theft. Effective immediately.
Let's look again at what you proposed in post #59:
I am not suggesting that someone whose gun is stolen should be charged with the same offense as the thief or shooter, but if he didn't immediately report the theft, he should be charged with a felony IMO and lose his privileges. Not be given a free ride. Let the legislators figure it out.
But you're "not advocating gun control"? Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining...
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Well it wasn't rare for the parents of the kid who got burned. You know the logical next step.
Pacafishmate
Mar 2012
#68
One wonders how you did miss the much higher rate of death associated with Automobiles, versus guns
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#160
The kid stole a firearm that was not properly secured. What is "properly secured"?
oneshooter
Mar 2012
#6
You and Brewster may intend it as sarcastic, but he's right on the money.
Starboard Tack
Mar 2012
#33
You are ignoring the fact that it can be made into one. And that by not securing it properly
oneshooter
Mar 2012
#111
"Your side just can't get away from blaming inanimate objects. That is a problem in and of itself."
ellisonz
Mar 2012
#77
What about a gun stolen from a Police Station? By your "logic" the cops shouldn't own guns.
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#141
Mea culpa...I don't think I've ever known anyone who thinks American cops shouldn't have guns.
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#157
Brilliant. "the kind of firearm this kid used is about as "benign" a firearm as exists"
Starboard Tack
Mar 2012
#20
When the same proposals are made in legislatures, they are acknowledged by all...
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#80
"Responsibility and accountability" is the new "reasonable and common-sense"
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#81
No no...it's a gun, ask any Anti they'll tell you guns kill people...designed to kill no less.
ileus
Mar 2012
#83
So once again... it's okay if teenagers are troubled, bullied, teased, and become violent.
krispos42
Mar 2012
#129
Nobody is denying that access to firearms plays a role in this sort of thing
krispos42
Mar 2012
#142