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Gun Control & RKBA

In reply to the discussion: December 29, 1890 [View all]

jimmy the one

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15. greydee's false dichotomy
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:10 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:44 PM - Edit history (1)

greydee: The Warsaw Jews were overcome by the Germans. The difference is the men on Bataan fought with determination; most of the people in the Warsaw ghetto just died. The men on Bataan made a difference in the war while the Warsaw ghetto is a foot note in history.

False dichotomy, as well as a false implied equivalency, tho the defense at bataan had a larger impact on the war of course.
An expanding & fresh invading japanese army overcame an allied trained & equipped army at bataan in the phillipines, while the jewish ghetto was comprised of largely jewish civilians who were undernourished, demoralized, & vastly underarmed due the nuremburg law of 1935 {as well as the waffengesetz of 1938}.
To argue the jewish warsaw ghetto massacre was due to a lack of arms is simply a page out of the 2nd Amendment Mythology Bible.
Behold, Greydee, how the jewish actually lasted about 10 days longer than bataan:

The Battle of Bataan (7 Jan – 9 April 1942) was a battle that represented the most intense phase of Imperial Japan's invasion of the Philippines during World War II. General Douglas MacArthur, consolidated all of his Luzon-based units on the Bataan Peninsula..

warsaw ghetto, wwII: Jan 18, 1943, the Germans suddenly entered the Warsaw ghetto.. Within hours, some 600 Jews were shot and 5,000 others rounded up.. final battle started on the eve of Passover of April 19, 1943, when a Nazi force consisting of several thousand troops entered the ghetto... Significant resistance ended on April 28, and the Nazi operation officially ended in mid-May, symbolically culminating with the demolition of the Great Synagogue of Warsaw on May 16. entered the Warsaw ghetto intent upon a further deportation. Within hours, some 600 Jews were shot and 5,000 others rounded up..

The surrender at Bataan, with 140,000 soldiers surrendering in the Philippines altogether,[1] was the largest in American and Filipino military histories, and was the largest United States surrender since the American Civil War's Battle of Harper's Ferry.

December 29, 1890 [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 OP
So what's your point? catbyte Oct 2016 #1
Umm, What are a few deaths in order to enforce prohibition? Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #2
What's the point of asking what's the point? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2016 #3
Maybe it was about the immigration policy years before discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #4
Are you for forced confiscation like many on DU? Duckhunter935 Oct 2016 #5
One big point is: Unarmed people do not fight back GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #6
Oh, Jesus H. Christ. As an Oibwe, I am DEEPLY offended by your conflating a shameful catbyte Oct 2016 #7
I'll take that as you are a supporter of gun control GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #8
I refuse to even dignify that outrage of a question with an answer. Shame on you. catbyte Oct 2016 #9
The holdouts at Bataan were overcome by the Japanese GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #11
greydee's false dichotomy jimmy the one Oct 2016 #15
The men on Bataan had military arms GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #22
Memes. Straw Man Oct 2016 #12
Endlösung der Juden-frage jimmy the one Oct 2016 #16
Specious? Straw Man Oct 2016 #20
Now I've heard it all discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #21
Because, ANY evidence that armed resistance can be effective even on the smallest, localized scale Marengo Oct 2016 #23
Why didn't I think of that discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #26
partisan warfare jimmy the one Oct 2016 #28
History. Straw Man Oct 2016 #29
The Churchill quote sums it up for me: discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #30
who's the bigger racist? jimmy the one Nov 2016 #38
Therefore, you've concisely condensed your opinion/observation that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #39
too smug jimmy the one Nov 2016 #38
Not that I agree with your assertion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #39
you piqued my interest jimmy the one Oct 2016 #31
Well, that's good. Straw Man Oct 2016 #34
Divergence discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #35
Yes. Exactly. Straw Man Oct 2016 #36
You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #37
It's a "dumbass meme" if civilian disarmament is an ideoligical goal. Marengo Oct 2016 #24
If allowing Jews to possess arms posed no potential threat towards the Nazi regime, it's Jewish.. Marengo Oct 2016 #25
Beyond the living batshit crazy pale, is it not. pangaia Oct 2016 #27
friendly fire kills both sides: eyewitness phillip wells jimmy the one Oct 2016 #14
I'm sure your implication... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #17
sympathetic magic jimmy the one Oct 2016 #18
Then, thanks for agreeing with premise in the OP. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #19
Gun control isn't progressive. ileus Oct 2016 #32
A concise way with words is a gift... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #33
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