Gun Control & RKBA

Atypical Liberal

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35. How so?

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:45 AM

Dec 2011

>would care to admit that we have a tremendously problematic gun control policy and that the answer is more and better gun control.

The FBI just released it's preliminary Uniform Crime data for 2011.

Once again, crime, including violent crime, is down. In fact, we are now at the lowest crime rates in decades, despite record numbers of firearms being in circulation.

Yes, anecdotes like the one you posted are tragic, but are rare, and becoming increasingly so.

Why do you think more gun control is called for when violent crime rates continue to decline in spite of more liberal firearm laws and increase numbers of firearms in circulation?

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Fatal Cop Shooting Suspect Killed In Standoff [View all] ellisonz Dec 2011 OP

So, what is your commentary/proposals? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #1

You can go check back on the other thread... ellisonz Dec 2011 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Dec 2011 #3

This is a very tacky post, ellisonz, I encourage you to remove it petronius Dec 2011 #4

Well I respect you...but... ellisonz Dec 2011 #7

I wasn't referring to the OP, I was referring to the "crickets" post petronius Dec 2011 #11

Done. ellisonz Dec 2011 #12

Thank you! (nt) petronius Dec 2011 #15

How about more and better criminal control? one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #16

You couldn't be more wrong. ellisonz Dec 2011 #17

You don't get it one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #19

Hey...don't look at me...I'm not the one encouraging doing away with a failed system. ellisonz Dec 2011 #20

What you've overlooked in your moral entrepeneurship is the system hasn't failed. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #21

Because of gun control... ellisonz Dec 2011 #22

But gun laws are far less restrictive than they were forty years ago- and there are far more guns... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #25

So you're for gun control... ellisonz Dec 2011 #29

You are purposely being obtuse. PavePusher Dec 2011 #31

I've refuted the basis of most of your studies which are narrowly constructed... ellisonz Dec 2011 #41

Learned nothing from the Eighteenth Amendment? one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #34

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #43

more than you gejohnston Dec 2011 #44

Ok. ellisonz Dec 2011 #45

Utah's murder rate gejohnston Dec 2011 #46

Have another. ellisonz Dec 2011 #47

No, don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs. one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #52

Oh please... ellisonz Dec 2011 #53

Where do you see anger in that post? N/T beevul Dec 2011 #57

Here, try this out one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #26

That's a ludicrous example... ellisonz Dec 2011 #27

Hardly- the NICS is run by the FBI, who also run the national crime databases. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #30

Have you been in this forum when "universal" b.g. checks was debated? SteveW Dec 2011 #40

"more better laws" don't seem to have worked. Your proposals? SteveW Dec 2011 #39

How so? Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #35

you referred to 'the defense of unlimited gun rights go unchallenged on this board' aikoaiko Dec 2011 #37

Many errors and false assumptions on your part... SteveW Dec 2011 #38

Do you read your own posts? beevul Dec 2011 #50

How about tired? ellisonz Dec 2011 #51

You aren't the only one. beevul Dec 2011 #54

So we should have no debate and all agree on a highly painful issue? ellisonz Dec 2011 #55

I don't recall anyone saying that. beevul Dec 2011 #56

Interestingly enough, those crickets include you, ellisonz ManiacJoe Dec 2011 #6

If I didn't care I wouldn't have posted, no? ellisonz Dec 2011 #8

And your point? rl6214 Dec 2011 #5

What's your point? ellisonz Dec 2011 #9

You are just the latest in a long line of gun control zealots that posts rl6214 Dec 2011 #10

Ha... ellisonz Dec 2011 #14

Well, I think you're trying (and failing) to gin up a moral panic friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #18

I've actually read that Becker work. ellisonz Dec 2011 #23

No, but all these accounts of satanic ritual abu..., err gun crimes friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #24

If only... ellisonz Dec 2011 #28

Gun laws are now laxer, there are fewer police on the streets and .. hack89 Dec 2011 #32

What color is the sky in your world? We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #33

You really need to do some research. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #36

What personal attack? rl6214 Dec 2011 #48

The jury disagreed with you - your bit about "dancing" is a personal attack. ellisonz Dec 2011 #49

LEO's please don't ever let your guard down. ileus Dec 2011 #13

Shooting Leaves Local Police Searching For Answers ellisonz Dec 2011 #42