Is this enough? 50+ dead, 200+ wounded.

[flamin lib]

32. Okay.

"If you're serious, then don't try to allow "some" semiautomatic rifles and shotguns based on whether, or how, the magazines are replaced. Ban them all. All semiautomatic longs guns. Be honest and simple and straightforward. Your side bitches and moans every time the gun industry and gun owners adapt to changing laws (e.g., grinding off the bayonet mounting lug of an AK-47 so it's not an "assault weapon" so don't try to make complicated failures. "

Yeah, that's where I am. Since the jackasses in the gun nut world will find a way to "work around" any kind of regulation, set the regulation level at a place that there IS NO WORKAROUND. If that's 1860 technology fine with me.

You will immediately say that criminals will get them anyway. So what? They won't have 320,000,000 of them.

Finally you say, I assume with a straight face, that this shooter could have shot almost 600 people in 11 minutes using a California compliant gun. I don't even know how to respond to that. That kind of thinking is so fucking head in ass stupid it's beyond a response.

Other than that, you make an excellent point about handguns. Get rid of all of them, every one.