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Response to SonofDonald (Reply #52)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:44 PM

53. I respectfully disagree to some degree

Nobody bothers to explain what "sensible" means. It is a weasel propaganda term that means nothing. There is no evidence gun control works, at least out of the studies that follow the scientific method, not advocacy "research" that has a predetermined conclusion done by nonscientists and published in medical journals.
Before we make more "sensible laws", how about we amend the current five or six federal gun control laws sensible? Outside of culture war, it is an easy answer for complex issues. The reals solutions will piss on sacred cows and special interests. How can anyone seriously suggest gun control works when more people die of heroin overdose each year? Criminals and gang members, where most of the violence is, don't go to FFLs or gun shows. Several DoJ studies show this. That means the people affected are not the problem. When you factor in black market weapons from Eastern Europe, guns outnumber people in France and Germany. The numbers you see in Wikipedia etc. are the ones governments know about.
Most of our problem is in pockets of some cities. Outside of those areas, we are as safe as Germany or Denmark. These pockets have the same things in common as the most violent cities in the world, most of which aren't American (and all have stricter gun laws than we do.)
What are those?
Wealth inequality (it not only applies to countries but down to the zip code)
poor infrastructure
poverty
drug gangs
political corruption Instead of cleaning house at City Hall, Chicago can simply scapegoat downstate deer hunters and target shooters.

If we don't address those problems, we could have gun laws like USVI, Mexico, and Brazil and will get the same result they have. A lot was made about how Freddie Gray died, and rightfully so. But we never looked at how he lived. BTW, look up the correlation between environmental lead and violence.
The real solutions will cost a couple of trillion dollars and butcher sacred cows of both parties. Instead, the corrupt (Leland Yee and City of Chicago), authoritarian (Bloomberg and Trump before he decided to run) and culture warriors (TYT) would rather rant about "sensible gun laws" which will lead to new proposals because the last ones didn't work because of "loopholes" (see California every month).

As for your choice not to carry, what works for you.

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