The RKBA v Tyranny

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18. re: "I have never heard a convincing argument for the ops point."

The American Civil War is an not an example of a struggle against tyranny. Your mindset is too American to see the real point. The point of the Civil War is that civilians on both sides were sufficiently armed in order that neither the existing federal government was able to simply dominate the states in rebellion nor was the government set up by the rebellious states able to dominate the Northern Union. The result was the war not a state of tyranny.

Their are numerous examples domestic tyranny but the Civil War isn't one of them. For example:
Pequot War -

The Treaty of Hartford and was signed on September 21, 1638. About 200 Pequots survived the war; they finally gave up and submitted themselves under the authority of the sachem of the Mohegans or Naragansetts:
"There were then given to Onkos, Sachem of Monheag, Eighty; to Myan Tonimo, Sachem of Narragansett, Eighty; and to Nynigrett, Twenty, when he should satisfy for a Mare of Edward Pomroye’s killed by his Men. The Pequots were then bound by Covenant, That none should inhabit their native Country, nor should any of them be called PEQUOTS any more, but Moheags and Narragansatts for ever."

Other Pequots were enslaved and shipped to Bermuda or the West Indies, or were forced to become household slaves in English households in Connecticut and Massachusetts Bay. The Colonies essentially declared the Pequots extinct by prohibiting them from using the name any longer.

The colonists attributed their victory over the hostile Pequot tribe to an act of God: "Let the whole Earth be filled with his glory! Thus the lord was pleased to smite our Enemies in the hinder Parts, and to give us their Land for an Inheritance."

This was the first instance wherein Algonquian peoples of southern New England encountered European-style warfare. After the Pequot War, there were no significant battles between Indians and southern New England colonists for about 38 years.

Second Seminole War -

Nobody kept a cumulative account of the number of Indians killed, or who died of starvation or other privations caused by the war. The Indians who were shipped west did not fare well either. By the end of 1843, 3,824 Indians had been shipped from Florida to what became the Indian Territory, but in 1844 only 3,136 remained. As of 1962 there were only 2,343 Seminoles in Oklahoma and perhaps some 1,500 in Florida.

There are so many examples with Native Americans.

The carpetbaggers and radical reconstruction folk were just older example of our orange plague in chief. The surviving Southerners weren't enslaved or resettled in camps. However, we did our best to assure that Native Americans wouldn't own proper small arms and they fought for a long time with pre-iron age weapons.

Since before the US existed up to basically one generation ago, Native Americans have survived in conditions of tyranny that have been very slow to improve or be cured. Many of them throughout history have demonstrated their resistance to tyranny via armed conflict and their refusal to submit even to being murdered because of their commitment to rights and freedom.

Native People were recognized by their inclusion in those covered in the 1965 VRA:

In 1965 the Voting Rights Act (VRA) put an end to individual states' claims on whether or not Natives were allowed to vote through a federal law. Section 2 of the VRA states that, “No voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure, shall be imposed or applied by any State or political subdivision to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color."

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