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In reply to the discussion: The Gun Is Civilization [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)85. fucking disgusting
It is legal to abort a viable fetus but killing a new-born is murder.
In both examples, the criminal and baby end up dead. The only question is when in the process that death occurs.
In both examples, the criminal and baby end up dead. The only question is when in the process that death occurs.
Just fucking disgusting. Not even honest, since the circumstances in which it is legal in the US to abort a HYPOTHETICALLY viable fetus (no fetus is "viable" until it has survived birth and become a human being, obviously - viability is ALWAYS a post facto determination) are extremely narrow.
To read at Democratic Underground that when a pregnancy is terminated, "the baby ends up dead" ... well, I just keep forgetting to lower my expectations, don't I?
I can't even expect not to find rampant sophistry. Apart from its revolting misogyny, this whole argument is pure equivocation, since there is no equivalency between a fetus and a "criminal". One is a human being, and one is not.
Of course, you were just playing devil's advocate.
For the purpose, of course, of establishing a totally false equivalency of your own between "extreme anti-abortionists" and "extreme anti-gunners". Whatever these "extreme anti-gunners" of your own imagining might be, there is no point of similarity between them and the anti-choice brigade. Whether or not an "extreme anti-gunner" is "anti-killing", the anti-choice brigadeis not.
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Hah. Notice how our gun nuttiness has kept us from becoming subjects over the last 20 years?
Doctor_J
Mar 2012
#98
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Mar 2012
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