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In reply to the discussion: A question for this group-- [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)70. if it is locked to the outside,
I wouldn't evacuate unless you think the door would be breeched. If your school was built in the 1950s or later, you might not be able to open the windows. That is the case of all of the ones around here.
It's nice that you think teachers should not be "forced to carry"--if you think for even a short time, you see that an armed teacher changes this paradigm.
I don't see how.
What if a few teachers are designated to carry guns? Now it is their job to stop the killing. All of the things they need to do to prevent death are now out the window. Upon further reflection, I can only assume that you can see clearly that this is a terribly misguided idea. Am I not correct?
If I had a system like that, I would not choose teachers. I would use non teaching staff.
BTW-any time someone mentions that guns are some inanimate object the entire world rolls their eyes. "A gun is a tool like anything else"--this is no argument--lame at best. It IS a tool--one meant for destroying tissues and life.
It is a statement of empirical fact. It is meant to launch a projectile. Some are designed for paper. However, it can be used by good to destroy evil or evil to destroy good. It is only as good or evil as the person holding it.
So, it would appear, that most of the advice you give regard people like you. We need to be aware and watchful. Though no one in my school would admit it, limitations of guns might actually prevent some people from having guns.
Situational awareness is always a good idea. How many people get hit by cars because their face is in their phone. Yes it does prevent some people from having guns, usually people like this: NJ police were dragging their feet for her purchase permit. http://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2015/06/berlin_murder_victim_told_neighbor_about_gun_permi.html In the 1920s, the KKK pushed for purchase permits in places like Michigan to prevent certain people from getting guns. Same with South Carolina's handgun ban (1902-1911 before it was overturned).
Please don't let your passion blind you to the harm they do. And don't give me any fucking advice about how to protect my students.
Simply some professional advice from someone who had to actually plan for such things, just not in this country. Harm? At least five (not counting the two by the CDC) studies show that guns do more good than harm.
You're whole mindset seems to be a walking facepalm.
Only because I am operating from practical experience and research, not simply ideology. Edit history
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By "control"-I was referring to a person's feeling of being personally in control--
digonswine
Apr 2018
#29
It's silly to take the founding fathers' ideas as perfect for today's problems-
digonswine
Jun 2018
#93
re: I have had enough of it and am probably done discussing it(maybe).
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jun 2018
#97
Why are there no warnings on guns that say you are more likely to be killed with a gun when you poss
gejohnston
May 2018
#64
Carrying for self-defense generally means being able to draw and shoot quickly.
krispos42
Apr 2018
#15
"...the right to "have arms" embodied in the English Declaration of Rights...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Apr 2018
#40
re you saying there should be limits regarding who carries what? Sure seems that way.
digonswine
May 2018
#84