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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
52. Yeah, I can see how much you want to protect kids
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 07:27 PM
Jul 2019

You've latched onto a policy who's positive effects, if any, will be:
a) small and probably statistically insignificant,
b) take years to take effect
c) PUTS REPUBLICANS IN POWER.


Yeah, I'm sure all those kids suffering with lack of health care, crappy schools, gang violence, gay-bashing, drug abuse, the school-to-prison pipeline, and being gunned down by MAGA-hat cops will be OVERJOYED that, you, sharedvalues, make their lives infinitely better by making sure that AR-15s didn't have a bayonet mounting provision. Because that's the REAL issue here.

I imagine a couple of hundred thousand dead Iraqi children are just overjoyed that Al Gore lost Florida by less than 600 votes because Bill Clinton and Al Gore adopted a useless DLC/Third Way crime-control measure that cost Gore critical votes and put that weak-willed, dry-drunk, and clueless Shrub in office. Oh yeah, I'm sure all those dead, deformed, and PTSD-ed Iraqi kids living in bombed-out hovels and drinking tainted water and questionable food just LOVE the fact that you "care about the children" so much.

Ditto for all those Afghan kids, and those kids in concentration camps on American soil.

I find your absolute unwillingness to self-criticize yourself, or take pride and smugness from your lack of knowledge in this area, very counterproductive. You dismiss facts as unimportant, as not worth of your consideration. That is nuts! That is not what somebody that cares about kids would do.

You think your saving kids lives by tilting at the windmill of "assault weapons". You're not. Sorry, you're not. You're not and you never will. EVER.

You're not lowering the crime rate, and you're not stopping mass shootings. You're living in some kind of fantasy world where the problem will "go away" if only we take away hardware!

Well, here's a reality check for you: You need to educate yourself about what guns are and are not before you go to your keyboard and start fishing for ego-scratching from people that think "fuck the NRA" is some sort of effective action. But you won't do that, will you? You have your own "facts" and you'll keep spraying them from your own little self-reinforcing bubble.

Get a clue. There are several, perhaps more than several, gun-control efforts that people like you and people like me could AGREE on, but your fetishization on defining and then banning "assault weapons" means that NOTHING gets done, except that we have Dolt45 and that hate-filled asshole Mitch McConnell running everything and stacking the courts with extremist judges.

The SCOTUS is getting packed; RBG is hardly a spring chicken and we're depending on her to stave off even more packing of the Court! McConnell already stole one SCOTUS seat, and if Dolt45 pulls out a "win" in 16 months, do you think she had the health and stamina to last until 2025?

You need to look at yourself in the mirror, then educate yourself. You can start by having an honest conversation here instead of being condescending and self-righteous. Nobody is asking you to love guns; we asking you to fill your noggin with knowledge you can make an independent, informed decision instead of being some slogan-chanting follower.

Hmm discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #1
Advocating for assault weapon bans harm America far more krispos42 Jul 2019 #2
You don't *GET* it The Mouth Jul 2019 #3
Dead Americans aren't worth working to fix? sharedvalues Jul 2019 #6
Ignorance is worth working to fix The Mouth Jul 2019 #14
You mean the killers who grab their guns before shooting kids? sharedvalues Jul 2019 #16
Teh guns, they kill kids. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #25
You are not much different from those waving fetus photos in front of abortion clinics... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #29
Ban all semiautos. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #9
Analogy: MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #15
No. Analogy is to Canada: ban all semiautos. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #17
If it's poorly reasoned, kindly state why, MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #18
Guns kill American kids. The NRA supports domestic terror. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #23
re: "Alcohol is not a weapon designed to kill people." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #26
We have seen anti gun proponents sarisataka Jul 2019 #27
What I have got. MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #35
Except firearms ARE an instrument of domestic terror sharedvalues Jul 2019 #36
If you want to save more lives, what do you have against my alcohol proposal? MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #37
Handguns kill Americans. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #39
You are correct, you have made them repeatedly. MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #40
Handguns kill Americans. Obtuseness isn't helpful. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #41
Other countries? Straw Man Jul 2019 #44
Alcohol kills more Americans. MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #45
Your gun fun gets Americans killed. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #48
So get your laws passed. hack89 Jul 2019 #49
Then get the h*ll out of the way. Support gun control. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #54
I do. hack89 Jul 2019 #55
Good and bad, but thanks sharedvalues Jul 2019 #56
Ok. Nt hack89 Jul 2019 #57
You just shifted your position to fit my logic. MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #50
You forgot to add: yagotme Jul 2019 #51
re: difficulties in implementing the policy discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #43
I resemble that remark! MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #46
I aye! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #47
Ban handguns; why attempt to distract with incommensurables? sharedvalues Jul 2019 #42
The many reasons why much of this is simply rhetoric and hyperbole discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #38
Canada doesn't "ban all semi-autos." Straw Man Jul 2019 #19
Pious frauds regard truth as something that can be skipped when 'necessary' friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #34
Better analogy is a ban of hand grenades. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #24
More pious fraud on your part-there is no "existing ban on hand grenades" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #30
And once more, completely missing the point krispos42 Jul 2019 #21
Blah blah Gun knowledge semantics sharedvalues Jul 2019 #22
https://dictionary.apa.org/false-consensus-effect friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #31
Yeah, I can see how much you want to protect kids krispos42 Jul 2019 #52
Guns kill kids and you can't handle the truth. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #53
I'm sorry you hate guns more than you love American children friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #58
Your schtick is far from original, and was recognized at DU as far back as 2013: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #59
And I'm sorry you hate guns more than you love American lives krispos42 Jul 2019 #60
I love America. Guns kill Americans. Anyone who supports guns helps kill Americans sharedvalues Jul 2019 #61
If you're including handguns, that would actually make a difference. sir pball Jul 2019 #28
Correct. Ban semiautos, including handguns. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #32
*Still* you persist in bullshitting us: "Canada essentially bans in public all semiauto weapons" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2019 #33
Aren't you happy the NRA is pissing away their money hack89 Jul 2019 #4
I am happy the NRA is imploding. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #7
They will just move to another gun rights group. hack89 Jul 2019 #11
Gun owners are a complicit-in-kid-deaths demographic sharedvalues Jul 2019 #12
That's funny hack89 Jul 2019 #13
Reminds me of something written on a family member's chemistry test discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2019 #20
You also are helping the environment hack89 Jul 2019 #5
Medical care for people that get shot. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #8
Change the law. Not complicated. Nt hack89 Jul 2019 #10
Well, I guess I "harm(ed) America by funding the NRA..." melm00se Jul 2019 #62
The children who died at Sandy Hook-- you helped the NRA support their deaths. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #63
I support the NRA Foundation melm00se Aug 2019 #64
Your money helps support kid deaths :( sharedvalues Aug 2019 #65
i am going to hazard a guess melm00se Aug 2019 #66
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