Gun Control & RKBA

ret5hd

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13. Not really puzzling...more nuanced than you might be used to though...

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 19, 2020, 06:08 PM

Oct 2020

Lets take a hypothetical:

Someone owns a vial of of some horrible chemical. Owns it perfectly legally, whatever that means...has the proper paperwork, maybe it's completely unregulated, whatever. He owns it legally. And this little vial can kill everyone in a house-sized structure. And its labelled "DANGER! THIS CHEMICAL CAN KILL ANYONE THAT EVEN SMELLS IT!"

And he leaves it under the front seat of his car. And it gets stolen.
Or leaves it on his night stand. And it gets stolen.
Or leaves it in a public restroom. And it gets stolen.
Or hides it in a shoebox in his closet. And it gets stolen.
Or sells it under the table and makes an insurance claim for his loss.

Sure, someone with money could go buy a vial of this hypothetical chemical, but we would still say amongst ourselves "Man, I hope this guy don't get anymore of that stuff. He's an effin' idiot!"

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Gun rights group goes to court to stop buyback program [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 OP

Maybe those responsible gun owners shoulda invested in a safer safe. ret5hd Oct 2020 #1

Maybe law enforcement shouldn't be financing a fencing operation. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #2

Maybe responsible gun owners should keep their guns locked up. ret5hd Oct 2020 #3

What have I heard about this before? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #4

My short skirt won't kill anyone. ret5hd Oct 2020 #5

I'm thinking it's not about your skirt. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #6

Your standard for victim blaming appears to be "Acceptable, *if* I don't like them" friendly_iconoclast Oct 2020 #11

puzzling isn't it discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #12

Not really puzzling...more nuanced than you might be used to though... ret5hd Oct 2020 #13

"What's grey about the zone in this instance? Did (these people) do anything remotely illegal?" friendly_iconoclast Oct 2020 #14

I hear you discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #16

You are a gracious person. Have a nice evening. ret5hd Oct 2020 #17

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #19

I'm really not trying to be verbose but I see this issue as terribly complicated. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #18

Not a bit - some folks believe civil rights should be reserved for "their sort of people" friendly_iconoclast Oct 2020 #15

There are victims who suffer civil forfeiture of money, cars, etc... sanatanadharma Oct 2020 #9

Yes victims discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #10

No gun return if insurance claim has been paid. sanatanadharma Oct 2020 #7

So if the victim... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2020 #8