Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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69. What on earth are you talking about?

Sat Mar 17, 2012, 02:50 AM

Mar 2012

We are talking here about children dying from gunshot wounds. This is the Gungeon. We discuss guns and gun violence here, not fucking swimming pools. I'm sure there are lots of places where we can talk about swimming pools. What, pray tell, is "intellectually dishonest" about pointing out that "Those who support gun proliferation" obviously contribute to overall gun violence. Guns in public places, especially handguns, have a tendency to kill people when used according to instructions. Maybe you hadn't noticed or don't care. Children getting killed or killing each other or themselves with handguns offends me big time and dodging that by talking about fucking swimming pools offends me even more. Shame on you for trying to say I'm dodging. You think I put the gun in the kids hands? You think I encouraged his father to carry a gun around? If I supported that kind of shit, I wouldn't be sleeping very well. I'd be hiding in shame.

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Boy, 3, kills himself with gun found in family's car [View all] Starboard Tack Mar 2012 OP

Please see: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002425115 teddy51 Mar 2012 #1

NOT accidental. everything has a cause and the father's action led to the shooting nt msongs Mar 2012 #2

I would say a series of Daddy's actions led to this tragedy. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #5

I have to say gejohnston Mar 2012 #8

Isn't it likely that COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #32

GE and I have had this conversation many times. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #34

One major flaw in those studies gejohnston Mar 2012 #39

Or, if a gun, rope or train doesn't do it, how about a chainsaw? shadowrider Mar 2012 #41

Yeah, those chainsaw suicides are becoming very popular in LA Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #47

"...if they had had to do it the old-fashioned way..." PavePusher Mar 2012 #37

that is because gejohnston Mar 2012 #38

Mostly agree mvccd1000 Mar 2012 #22

I accept that carrying a gun is a possible way to protect one's family. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #26

Simple, it stays in its holster by my side, where I go oneshooter Mar 2012 #31

Raising questions. tosh Mar 2012 #3

Another Gun Headline in America otohara Mar 2012 #4

Are these really "gun violence"? pipoman Mar 2012 #6

"never heard anyone citing vehicle fatalities as 'motor vehicle violence'." Really? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #10

Sounds like exactly the definition I gave for violence in the post you are responding to, no? pipoman Mar 2012 #13

Dad had a concealed weapons permit? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #7

if he did gejohnston Mar 2012 #11

A PPE can't provide the safety for your family when out of your reach. ileus Mar 2012 #9

Excellent question Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #12

Yes, that's the problem with Civil Rights. PavePusher Mar 2012 #17

Well this one proved himself a danger to others with a blast. ellisonz Mar 2012 #25

That does happen from time to time in a free society. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #73

You said it. Doesn't get much crazier. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #35

Ummm, you may not agree that people should HAVE that civil right... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #72

Constitutional right. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #74

Maybe there was one of these at the store? pipoman Mar 2012 #14

Too bad there wasn't on in his car. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #15

That's how my gun got stolen. And then some people had the chutzpah to blame me for it. PavePusher Mar 2012 #18

You make an excellent point. ileus Mar 2012 #19

Was there also one of these at the store? savalez Mar 2012 #24

No disagreement that the guy made a critical error.. pipoman Mar 2012 #30

... ellisonz Mar 2012 #16

Another IDIOT gun owner! most of us are not that careless!!! Logical Mar 2012 #20

Not just a gun owner, but a CCW permit holder. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #21

being a CCW holder matters how? gejohnston Mar 2012 #23

They are supposed to be the law abiding responsible ones. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #27

The other one WAS a cop. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #36

Sorry, what "other one"? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #48

There have been more than one of these incidents in the last few weeks. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #51

Holy shit. I had no idea. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #52

As long as people are negligent with firearms, no. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #57

it was a cop three days ago...but only cc holders are the enemy. ileus Mar 2012 #28

This one was a cop shadowrider Mar 2012 #29

I keep one in my glove box but in a locked case. aikoaiko Mar 2012 #33

Question ellisonz Mar 2012 #40

Better question. Clames Mar 2012 #42

Even better question. ellisonz Mar 2012 #43

Best question. Clames Mar 2012 #44

Do you realize what thread you're in? n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #45

Of course. Clames Mar 2012 #46

If you can't see the irony in your question... ellisonz Mar 2012 #49

Again with the gun grabbers answer to "civil discourse". oneshooter Mar 2012 #50

Often the recipient's first reaction is surprised and/or confused, but then they put it together. aikoaiko Mar 2012 #53

That's a good thing you do! ellisonz Mar 2012 #54

Thank you. aikoaiko Mar 2012 #56

About 50 children 12 and under are killed in firearms accidents annually. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #55

Children' deaths are statistically insignificant? Nice one GSC. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #58

Actually it is about 10 million that have CCWs. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #59

I'm concerned about all children and loss of innocent life. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #61

I do accept responsibility for my gun... GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #62

I'm happy to hear that. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #64

So why aren't you campaigning to have swimming pools banned? GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #66

What does any of that have to do with guns? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #67

Who's diverting now? Straw Man Mar 2012 #68

What on earth are you talking about? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #69

Touched a nerve, did I? Straw Man Mar 2012 #70

I don't know about where this guy lives gejohnston Mar 2012 #63

Technically he wasn't left unattended Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #65

unless it was mom carrying gejohnston Mar 2012 #71

A three-year-old was given unsupervised access to an unlocked car? slackmaster Mar 2012 #60