Gun Control & RKBA

Fair Witness

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78. I never heard, I always imagined it was either his, or maybe his dad's.

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 07:58 PM

Dec 2011

Most all us kids back then had our own guns, this awful incident was the first time I ever knew of a gun contributing to suicide. If only tragedies involving cars had been that rare...sigh...

There weren't any signs that I noticed or knew how to recognize. Maybe after years of experience I might have but too late now.

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Common myth "If people want to die by suicide, we can't stop them." [View all] Starboard Tack Dec 2011 OP

People who commit suicide dont want to die rrneck Dec 2011 #1

Right, they are seriously conflicted Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #8

No rrneck Dec 2011 #16

I think you're talking off the top of your head Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #31

I've been doing the research rrneck Dec 2011 #33

That's because rrneck Dec 2011 #34

What is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #2

I must admit that confused me too. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #9

Well maybe... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #15

Close enough for government work? SteveW Dec 2011 #26

interesting theory gejohnston Dec 2011 #3

Not sure why "automatic gun bans" would have any effect kudzu22 Dec 2011 #4

I don't think the reference is to automatic weapons Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #11

I'm confused about the term "automatic gun ban" in the article... spin Dec 2011 #5

I think the 'myth' is not entirely wrong - people who are deeply convinced petronius Dec 2011 #6

Agreed Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #12

Common myth: We should interfere with the wishes of others. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #7

This isn't about control freaks Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #13

Which seems like control to me. mvccd1000 Dec 2011 #21

We had to put a whole bunch of fences an nets on the Aurora bridge. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #23

What does a woman jumping off a bridge have to do with guns? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #25

Do you remember the title of your OP? mvccd1000 Dec 2011 #40

Are we to be denied the freedom to engage in self-destructive behavior? AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #22

Are you being facetious? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #24

So what gun laws are you proposing? hack89 Dec 2011 #38

I'm not proposing any gun laws Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #55

We don't need gun legistlaion - we need properly funded health care including mental health. hack89 Dec 2011 #56

Son or daughter? We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #42

What if your son or daughter were free adults? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #50

Want to keep moving those goalposts? We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #51

Good. We're making progress Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #67

Then please elaborate on what you were on about when you said 'intervene'. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #73

Is that so? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #28

I am certain you are way too intelligent to imagine anyone would take that post seriously. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #32

Live on a one way street, huh? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #49

Only in your wildest wet dreams. nt Fair Witness Dec 2011 #57

Was that sarcasm... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #52

Easiest way to commit suicide - just sit down. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #10

Point is, half the gun deaths in this country are suicides. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #14

Virtually 100% of the suicides in Japan are non-gun deaths. They still manage to kill themselves. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #18

Excuse me, but what does Japan have to do with this thread? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #29

the point was gejohnston Dec 2011 #30

Are you asserting that anything regarding the use of guns in other countries is off-topic? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #36

Of course not, but this thread is about suicide prevention in US culture Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #46

it is not about culture gejohnston Dec 2011 #47

And Japanese kill themselves more than Americans...without guns. It *is* about culture. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #60

true, that part is gejohnston Dec 2011 #61

Why does the means matter? Dead is dead. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #62

I agree gejohnston Dec 2011 #63

Just did. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #71

It's about access Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #64

The point is that the Japanese manage to have a higher suicide rate without access to firearms, Abin Sur Dec 2011 #59

The thread is not about 2A. It is about suicide Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #65

then let's talk about the issue without gejohnston Dec 2011 #68

The issue is about ease of access. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #72

Most of us care about actual, material gains. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #75

The fact that people kill themselves is a problem. That they use guns to do it is *not* a problem. Abin Sur Dec 2011 #70

It is intellectually dishonest to ignore the nature of suicide in nations where guns are AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #74

Not suprising - guns are easily available and effective. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #43

That's where you are so wrong Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #69

Doesn't seem to slow them down in Japan. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #77

"Automatic gun bans"? Does the author think there's a rash of full-auto suicides? Abin Sur Dec 2011 #17

I did Wolf Creek Pass in late December once DissedByBush Dec 2011 #19

Simple solution... make suicide illegal. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #20

...or no more than two a month. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #27

Gah! rrneck Dec 2011 #35

Do people usually use automatic weapons for suicide? ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #37

God, I hope not... pains me to imagine a pre '86 transferrable being confiscated/destroyed. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #39

That's two Gungeon threads reminding me of why I dropped my subscription to Psychobabble Today slackmaster Dec 2011 #41

Very understandable Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #44

no because gejohnston Dec 2011 #45

The writer has a Ph.D. in social psychology Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #54

Plays pretty fast and loose with language for a PHD. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #76

I don't support an armed citizenry. I support allowing people the freedom to choose to be armed. slackmaster Dec 2011 #48

Hey, I feel for you and I know how difficult it must have been. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #53

This is a 100% true and 100% horrific story: A friend of mine, many years ago, Fair Witness Dec 2011 #58

Pity nobody picked up on the signs Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #66

I never heard, I always imagined it was either his, or maybe his dad's. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #78