Gun Control & RKBA

DrDan

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71. I have survived quite a few years without packing

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:54 PM

Mar 2012

disingenuous? Perhaps in the eyes of gunners who cannot survive without a gun in their pants. I doubt non-packers feel that way - just a hunch.

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With all the talk [View all] burf Mar 2012 OP

This is getting to be a sick society. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #1

you say that like Florida is the only state with these screwed-up stand-your-ground laws DrDan Mar 2012 #2

Nothing screwed up about the stand your ground laws. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #13

so I guess you are ok with Zimmerman's lack-of-an-arrest DrDan Mar 2012 #27

no, but it makes a nice meme gejohnston Mar 2012 #34

well - there is activity in Florida congress to rewrite the law - guess some others DrDan Mar 2012 #36

flawed maybe gejohnston Mar 2012 #39

a duty to retreat gets my vote DrDan Mar 2012 #41

do you understand what that means? gejohnston Mar 2012 #44

yes DrDan Mar 2012 #45

why is that OK with you? gejohnston Mar 2012 #50

why is it "ok with me" to expect someone with a gun to take ALL DrDan Mar 2012 #51

Most people do gejohnston Mar 2012 #55

Shootings happen so often in the gun free paradise known as Chicago shadowrider Mar 2012 #3

Not to mention I carried all weekend and didn't shoot anyone. ileus Mar 2012 #4

and I did not carrry - and nothing happened to regret that decision DrDan Mar 2012 #6

Good for you! eqfan592 Mar 2012 #14

May your good luck continue. GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #18

you may credit it to luck - I don't DrDan Mar 2012 #19

Then you're not being realistic. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #67

I have survived quite a few years without packing DrDan Mar 2012 #71

Me too. Hoyt Mar 2012 #40

Good for you! eqfan592 Mar 2012 #68

Man bites dog zipplewrath Mar 2012 #5

These shootings are tragic as well. DanTex Mar 2012 #7

If you can show me where his "registry" would also affect criminals shadowrider Mar 2012 #8

it sure is . . . at a minimum DrDan Mar 2012 #9

In the story from Chicago, the two suspects are burf Mar 2012 #10

they probably wouldn't - but it does provide the authorities a tool to DrDan Mar 2012 #11

can you show one example? gejohnston Mar 2012 #12

There was a story a while back burf Mar 2012 #25

Nope, wouldn't affect hoodlums at all shadowrider Mar 2012 #26

like Zimmerman . . . he was ultra-law-abiding DrDan Mar 2012 #29

how dome it does everywhere else in the comparable world? iverglas Mar 2012 #58

hence they would not be effective in solving any case? DrDan Mar 2012 #28

No, I didn't say that. burf Mar 2012 #46

seems as though law enforcement professionals disagree with you DrDan Mar 2012 #48

most of these same professionals gejohnston Mar 2012 #49

so everything they think might be beneficial is an assault on your freedom? DrDan Mar 2012 #53

I have enough cops in my family gejohnston Mar 2012 #57

I also remember a large number of law enforcement professionals burf Mar 2012 #61

So would warrantless searches and "enhanced interrogation" DonP Mar 2012 #16

warrants can be acquired after-the-fact DrDan Mar 2012 #17

Only in national security cases, not in ordinary criminal ones. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #21

So it's OK to begrudge the police some tools but not others, if they have anything to do with guns? DonP Mar 2012 #23

Yeah, except it doesn't. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #31

here is what the former president of the Canadian Chief's of Police Association had to say DrDan Mar 2012 #32

RCMP claims gejohnston Mar 2012 #37

are you saying I fabricated that result? DrDan Mar 2012 #43

no, but Gun Control Canada gejohnston Mar 2012 #47

Gun Control What? iverglas Mar 2012 #56

wasn't there a registry? gejohnston Mar 2012 #59

read carefully iverglas Mar 2012 #65

lesson on US gun control laws gejohnston Mar 2012 #72

lesson in criminals iverglas Mar 2012 #73

we know that gejohnston Mar 2012 #74

oh my goodness iverglas Mar 2012 #75

if the pawn shop took it under the table gejohnston Mar 2012 #76

I'd say that quote bespeaks poor police procedure: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #62

that's like the state legislatures determining how best to educate children DrDan Mar 2012 #63

Would you let the Joint Chiefs of Staff set military policy? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #64

key word is "listen" DrDan Mar 2012 #66

Agreed- but only up to the point where the 'professional' gives bad advice. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #69

sure don't see any bad advice from the professionals in this context DrDan Mar 2012 #70

Do you think Canadian cops should rely on a registry entry to judge if guns are present? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #77

I think it is one more bit of information for them to consider - possible DrDan Mar 2012 #78

even without a registry gejohnston Mar 2012 #79

I would go back to the support given by the assocation of chiefs of police, and the RCMP DrDan Mar 2012 #80

most of the street cops gejohnston Mar 2012 #81

more important than a tool to trace crime guns iverglas Mar 2012 #54

How exactly does this shooting... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #15

Why doesn't El Paso have such a high gun death rate? GreenStormCloud Mar 2012 #20

For that matter, why does Houston have a lower murder rate than Chicago? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #22

are you suggesting that the laxer laws result in a lower murder rate DrDan Mar 2012 #30

no gejohnston Mar 2012 #33

guess it is the combination of the two posts that suggests "no correlation" to you? DrDan Mar 2012 #35

nothing is that simple gejohnston Mar 2012 #38

I have no idea what you are referring to as "simple" DrDan Mar 2012 #42

Then why do places that are *not* Chicago need tighter gun laws? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #60

so why does El Paso gejohnston Mar 2012 #24

re: "Had to pick up the story off the Gun Wire site." discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #52