Gun Control & RKBA

HockeyMom

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24. "What are you looking at?"

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 12:01 PM

Mar 2012

"Nothing." "What do you mean nothing?" "Get out of my face, or I will make you get out of my face!" "Hey, Stop pushing me." "Sorry." "You want a FIGHT?" "Get away from me." "I have nowhere to GO".

I have heard these kinds of "conversations" every day riding the NYC subway during rush hours. Threat? STAND YOUR GROUND? It all in the eye of the beholder. Yes, I have seen fights break out in some of these situations. Bystanders have usually called the transit police. I suppose if these commuters were armed they wouldn't to call the police? Somebody in the crowd could just SHOOT. I wonder how many innocent people in the CROWDED would die in a situation like that.

Now, do you think these people should be ARMED? On a crowded subway car or platform? Of course, NONE of these would EVER pull out a gun in "self-defense" or Stand their Ground.

Nah, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. ALL gun owners are responsible people who never get MAD, and NEVER snap.

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Why Gun Control advocates will end up with egg on their face once again... [View all] virginia mountainman Mar 2012 OP

The real issue is easy availability of guns and ammo and the attitude that guns are ok. bowens43 Mar 2012 #1

Thank you... movonne Mar 2012 #2

No valid reason. So I guess you're ok with bad guys killing innocent victims shadowrider Mar 2012 #3

Dig era veteran Mar 2012 #15

I think it is ridiculous to think that only agents of the state can save me from harm. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #4

Nor do they have a legal obligation to 'save' anyone. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #44

You sound just like.... one-eyed fat man Mar 2012 #5

"there is no valid reason to allow anyone outside of law enforcement to possess hand guns" Upton Mar 2012 #7

So why do you think America is enjoying historically low levels of gun violence? hack89 Mar 2012 #9

Could it be... orwell Mar 2012 #22

So if it is not guns per se but a particular demographic with guns that is the problem hack89 Mar 2012 #23

Except in most large urban areas safeinOhio Mar 2012 #26

They are lower in LA hack89 Mar 2012 #32

Care to provide some hard numbers. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #33

Lowest in 48 years for Atlanta hack89 Mar 2012 #35

update on Atlanta safeinOhio Mar 2012 #76

Murders down 14 percent in Chicago. hack89 Mar 2012 #36

That was 2010, this is 2012 safeinOhio Mar 2012 #77

Washington DC had their lowest number of murders in decades hack89 Mar 2012 #37

NY NY crime up this year in 34 o 76 precincts. safeinOhio Mar 2012 #71

They might be even safer without so many guns. Hoyt Mar 2012 #78

Criminals will always get all the guns they want. hack89 Mar 2012 #80

Yea, because the gun obsessed keep buying more and more hoping to satiate some strange needs. Hoyt Mar 2012 #81

Think carefully about my drug reference - it was a clue. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #83

yep, we grow the gunz up here in Canada iverglas Mar 2012 #107

*cough* I think you just made his point for him. Bravo! n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #41

Sure thing, shares- or is it Don Caballero? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #53

this is extremism and not what the majority in this country want. rl6214 Mar 2012 #119

There is a demand for child porn too, but that is being dealt with. Loudly Mar 2012 #6

No it won't. Americans know enough to look beyond the emotions at the hard fact. hack89 Mar 2012 #10

Suuuure it'll happen just as in Australia. Check this out: Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #12

That's a dynamic map of a nation heading for a crisis. Loudly Mar 2012 #13

Sounds like a title of a Marvel comic from the '60s... Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #19

I see it as the spread of liberalism... Clames Mar 2012 #20

Blue on that map does not mean Democratic. Loudly Mar 2012 #27

Can you explain why violent crime is at a 40 year low? DonP Mar 2012 #39

Also from FBI.gov Loudly Mar 2012 #42

Gun ownership up while murders are down hack89 Mar 2012 #52

moon made of cheese while murders are down iverglas Mar 2012 #108

The University of Chicago, the VPC, and NORC all recieve funding from the Joyce Foundation. Dr_Scholl Mar 2012 #109

But sarisataka Mar 2012 #110

wouldn't know iverglas Mar 2012 #111

if the manufactures are publicly traded gejohnston Mar 2012 #112

as I was saying iverglas Mar 2012 #131

Well sarisataka Mar 2012 #114

c'mon back down to earth now iverglas Mar 2012 #132

I tend to agree. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #137

So what's the problem then? hack89 Mar 2012 #117

And rifles of all types account for less than 2.7% of crimes with guns DonP Mar 2012 #75

And monkeys MIGHT fly out of my butt. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #95

Nope. krispos42 Mar 2012 #30

"gun ownership"? iverglas Mar 2012 #133

When is the last time rrneck Mar 2012 #21

You keep asking the wrong question. Loudly Mar 2012 #29

Nice dodge. rrneck Mar 2012 #34

I see your lips moving, but what I hear is Loudly Mar 2012 #93

What about all the parents with infants carrying guns? Callisto32 Mar 2012 #96

Carrying a young child is a protective shield in itself. Loudly Mar 2012 #100

My three month old daughter will Oneka Mar 2012 #116

Still dodging. rrneck Mar 2012 #105

No surprise about this absurd stupidity that gun nuts always display! -- n/t mazzarro Mar 2012 #8

I could reverse that comment ... spin Mar 2012 #49

Let's hope for continued progress for peoples 2A civil rights. ileus Mar 2012 #11

Your imaginary 2A rights threaten to deprive you of all your genuine rights. Loudly Mar 2012 #14

I am wondering era veteran Mar 2012 #16

You can choose not to take advantage of a right. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #17

Why? We don't tolerate air polluters, smokers are banned in a lot of places -- why not guns? Hoyt Mar 2012 #84

Smoking is not a right, smoking directly harms other people. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #134

Like adding more guns to society doesn't. Hoyt Mar 2012 #135

Imaginary? Clames Mar 2012 #18

Sure, just like not having to share the bathroom with black folks was. Loudly Mar 2012 #28

Yet the odds of me being murdered have never been lower. hack89 Mar 2012 #38

Will that be any consolation to you when the bullets are entering your body? Loudly Mar 2012 #45

There are many other things that are more likely to kill me first hack89 Mar 2012 #51

How about... beevul Mar 2012 #54

PPR (tombstoned) posters are not allowed to return, shares. beevul Mar 2012 #43

Whoever that person is or was, we obviously agree. Loudly Mar 2012 #47

Clearly. beevul Mar 2012 #48

apparently there is much to aggree on. Oneka Mar 2012 #118

Well done rl6214 Mar 2012 #120

Ahh, nvm, I see I wasn't the first to notice PPR'd Resurrection. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #46

So you're saying anti's are going to murder me? ileus Mar 2012 #50

How does that possibly follow from what I've said? Loudly Mar 2012 #94

Define "right." Callisto32 Mar 2012 #97

A claim to a freedom, power or immunity? Loudly Mar 2012 #101

"What are you looking at?" HockeyMom Mar 2012 #24

Nah, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. ALL gun owners are responsible people who never get MAD, and NEVER snap. shadowrider Mar 2012 #31

Here is one from Naples, Florida with 21,000 people HockeyMom Mar 2012 #40

That's not *quite* what you said- but that's okay. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #56

Do you think DISNEY should let their employees PACK HEAT too? HockeyMom Mar 2012 #57

Something wrong with your caps lock? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #60

You didn't answer any of my questions. HockeyMom Mar 2012 #61

Nah. Answer my question. It was first. shadowrider Mar 2012 #63

Disney is free to ban guns on its' property. As for school personnel carrying... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #66

I don't know of any concealed carry licenses that allow carry in amusement parks rl6214 Mar 2012 #121

Interesting, but you didn't answer the question shadowrider Mar 2012 #62

Another "you can buy guns at Wal-Mart without ID" statement, it would seem. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #55

To be more specific shadowrider Mar 2012 #64

Irrelevant HockeyMom Mar 2012 #67

I asked first, you answer first. shadowrider Mar 2012 #72

Answer my LEGAL questions HockeyMom Mar 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Callisto32 Mar 2012 #98

That depends. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #99

All? No. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #86

Yeah, right. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #25

Zimmerman is alive, free and armed today thanks to "stand your ground" jpak Mar 2012 #58

He had a history of Domestic Violence and resisting arrest HockeyMom Mar 2012 #59

Did Martin have a history of violence (At least at school)? shadowrider Mar 2012 #65

He was suspended from school once HockeyMom Mar 2012 #74

It was for tardiness Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #89

In FL, tardiness + hoodie = capital crime enforced by asshole vigilantes jpak Mar 2012 #126

since Zimmerman lives in a gated community gejohnston Mar 2012 #127

No - they maybe learned it in your state jpak Mar 2012 #128

most transplants gejohnston Mar 2012 #129

What are you trying to say? secondvariety Mar 2012 #106

was he convicted of domestic violence? gejohnston Mar 2012 #123

"...thanks to the corrupt SPD" eqfan592 Mar 2012 #104

Stand your ground laws are vigilante enabler and protector laws jpak Mar 2012 #125

Don't be so sure Oneka Mar 2012 #68

I suspect a few antis would rather Martin's family go without justice... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #87

I don't think that picture illustrates the point you're trying to make. jeff47 Mar 2012 #69

A magazine devoted to the AR-15 makes sense in today's marketplace. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #70

And for all those manufacturers... Clames Mar 2012 #90

You could always go to Gunbroker. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #91

I did. Clames Mar 2012 #92

I didn't know they were that hard to find lately. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #102

Buy a stripped lower and build a custom gun yourself. PavePusher Mar 2012 #115

Build one yourself, they are inexpensive, easy to build and a lot of fun to build rl6214 Mar 2012 #122

You're right, gun contorollers are so much more "state of the art" people DonP Mar 2012 #79

You do realize there are people who aren't "gun contorollers" nor enthusiasts, right? jeff47 Mar 2012 #82

Actually they do change that much DonP Mar 2012 #85

+1 Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #103

Separate, concurring opinion sarisataka Mar 2012 #88

What a thin, poorly written, and disconnected thesis Kolesar Mar 2012 #113

They should put those behind the counter with black wrapping too... ellisonz Mar 2012 #124

Why? Do you find the covers and articles obscene? oneshooter Mar 2012 #130

Gun Owners Caucus of your state Democratic Party thomasprescottjr Mar 2012 #136