Kleck actually making some sense on lenient gun laws

[sarisataka]

56. Perhaps I missunderstood

I took your meaning of offensive as an antonym of defensive. I think you were maybe saying you are offended.

I agree brandishing is a crime. Just caused you are pissed at your neighbor for allowing his dog to take a dump on your yard again you cannot wave your gun at him. But killing I think we agree is a crime also yet I think we would also agree that if you came upon a person assaulting a child and you attacked that person, be it with a gun, knife, rock or your bare hands and that attack then dies that it is entirely justified. In my eyes if a person id unjustly attacked with lethal force, if the other party displays a weapon be it knife, gun or tac nuke, and that attack ends without further violence, then the brandishing is justified.


My point of England's Olympians was to point out what different people consider sane laws. While you seem to think that is a small price, how exactly is prohibiting them training for their sport enhancing public safety? Have members of the team been committing armed robbery?


Have you considered chasing utopian ideals may lead you into anarchy?

The US is a violent place- that is a given. n number of crimes are facilitated by a gun while x number of crimes are prevented. How will the removal of guns affect the y total person on person crime rate? Will criminals suddenly change their ways if their preferred toll is removed?

The UK is also a violent place. Did the overall crime rate in the UK drop following the gun bans or are their just less gun crimes so any other cost is irrelevant? Can we blithely ignore the plight of victims of assault and sex crime who bear scars for life, physical and psychological, as it is for the good of society?

A gun is a problem solving tool. A very effective, limited use tool with potential fatal side effects of misuse. So is a circular saw. As I would not use the saw to remove a splinter so would I not use a gun to kid those kids to turn down their music...